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[phaquetoo]

when looking for a c.g, You should interview them, and interview a few of them, when you reach an agreement on the cost of their sevices, you need to have them put it in writing, and one sure sign of a bad c.g is them asking you for a donation! If they want a donation from you to get clones or what ever they need to help you, they are not a good c.g! (duck here comes the yelling) A true c.g will have mm ready for you when they sign on! they wont need a donation up front, after all they dont have to go pick up an lb from the underground dealer or do they?

Make sure everything is written in stone, if they can not keep up with your mm needs, than you realy need to get rid of them. and pick some one who knows what they are doing, some one who is dedicated to your mm needs and in helping you live in as little pain as possible,
another sure sign of a bad c.g Is when they send you to some one elses house to get your mm. (why dont they go get it, I dont realy care to meet people for the first time to get some mm) or if they ask you to drop off some mm to one of their other patients! (yes i have had all of the above happen so im speaking of real issues that happened to me) oh it is on! did i hear play nice!

[simonbloomfield]

when looking for a c.g, You should interview them, and interview a few of them, when you reach an agreement on the cost of their sevices, you need to have them put it in writing, and one sure sign of a bad c.g is them asking you for a donation! If they want a donation from you to get clones or what ever they need to help you, they are not a good c.g! (duck here comes the yelling) A true c.g will have mm ready for you when they sign on! they wont need a donation up front, after all they dont have to go pick up an lb from the underground dealer or do they?

Make sure everything is written in stone, if they can not keep up with your mm needs, than you realy need to get rid of them. and pick some one who knows what they are doing, some one who is dedicated to your mm needs and in helping you live in as little pain as possible,
another sure sign of a bad c.g Is when they send you to some one elses house to get your mm. (why dont they go get it, I dont realy care to meet people for the first time to get some mm) or if they ask you to drop off some mm to one of their other patients! (yes i have had all of the above happen so im speaking of real issues that happened to me) oh it is on! did i hear play nice!

Agreed Phaqetoo, I am a caregiver. 2 of my patients came to me after terrible experiences with bad caregivers. It's kind of funny......Most of the phone calls I receive are from other caregivers wanting me to give them meds so they can supply their own patients. Many people who become caregivers do not understand the importance of a perpetual harvest. Patients need their medicine and you (as a caregiver) have agreed to get it for them regardless of your havest time. Long story short......There are a ton of bad caregivers out there, Be careful and meet them and ask for pictures of their current grows before you submit the paperwork and sign your life away.

[TheSmartestManAlive]

Agreed Phaqetoo, I am a caregiver. 2 of my patients came to me after terrible experiences with bad caregivers. It's kind of funny......Most of the phone calls I receive are from other caregivers wanting me to give them meds so they can supply their own patients. Many people who become caregivers do not understand the importance of a perpetual harvest. Patients need their medicine and you (as a caregiver) have agreed to get it for them regardless of your havest time. Long story short......There are a ton of bad caregivers out there, Be careful and meet them and ask for pictures of their current grows before you submit the paperwork and sign your life away.

Yeah i agree my caregiver sucks right now and im looking for a new one. He had good prices and product , but only for a very short time and now it takes him like 5 days to return a call and i dont see him but once every 2 weeks and he brings a small amount. I wish i would have found a better one because this one has me shafted right now and im waiting to get my card before switching so they dont screw me and take another 4 months.

[greenhouse]

To new patients:

Folks, if you have allergies, any at all, be sure to tell your CG. Many medical cannabis Patients are more susceptible to molds, bacteria, and pesticides than the average recreational consumer. Those with already weakened immune systems need to ask the right questions.
Is your medication going to be grown organically?
What about pests? Do they use natural controls? Most chemical pesticides should be a last ditch effort to save plants, if used at all.

Just a few other things to consider...

[phaquetoo]

Yeah i agree my caregiver sucks right now and im looking for a new one. He had good prices and product , but only for a very short time and now it takes him like 5 days to return a call and i dont see him but once every 2 weeks and he brings a small amount. I wish i would have found a better one because this one has me shafted right now and im waiting to get my card before switching so they dont screw me and take another 4 months.

yea I waited for my plastic to come before submitting drop c.g papers, didnt want to screw things up, they are slow enough(state) Been over 50 days since check cashed but not doing a grow till it says I can possess plants on my card! When i do get my grow going, and work the kinks out, get some mm ready, I will take on one patient at a time depending on their needs(amount needed) when i sign on I want to be able to supply them within 20 days of check cashed, not 3 months after i sign them, that is rediculious!

[S.Beck]

I do not disagree with everything you have to say here, you have made some good points. My question to you is how is the caregiver supose to be able to have Meds ready for the patient when niether one of you (patient,caregive) are legal yet. Thats going against the law.

[phaquetoo]

I do not disagree with everything you have to say here, you have made some good points. My question to you is how is the caregiver supose to be able to have Meds ready for the patient when niether one of you (patient,caregive) are legal yet. Thats going against the law.

when you are a patient that possess your own plants, you dont take any one on till you have the meds to give them! It may take 2 crops before i want to sign on some one, but you can be damned sure, by the time I sign some one on, I will not run out of meds, and I would be ready to give them meds 20 days after check cashed!


Do you realy find that hard to believe? I dont know if you are growing your own or not! IF you are, you will get the hang of it, Hang in there, Lots of video's on here i believe and youtube dont realy need them! look around though, I learn something just about every day on here!
Read all, take in the good and throw out the crap!
Peace

[fuzzybuds]

when you are a patient that possess your own plants, you dont take any one on till you have the meds to give them! It may take 2 crops before i want to sign on some one, but you can be damned sure, by the time I sign some one on, I will not run out of meds, and I would be ready to give them meds 20 days after check cashed!


Do you realy find that hard to believe? I dont know if you are growing your own or not! IF you are, you will get the hang of it, Hang in there, Lots of video's on here i believe and youtube dont realy need them! look around though, I learn something just about every day on here!
Read all, take in the good and throw out the crap!
Peace

Yeah there is so much to learn. It's crazy how many different things there are to know about growing a clean high quality crop.

[phaquetoo]

Yea lots to learn, but once you get the knack, you will always do well!

[DevOfAngels]

phaquetoo, thank you for t he good advice, i am currently in the market for a caregiver, like you saaid i don't want to jump into anything.

[phaquetoo]

phaquetoo, thank you for t he good advice, i am currently in the market for a caregiver, like you saaid i don't want to jump into anything.

No problem! if you are becoming a patient, I would not assign a c.g, unless you dont have any other way to get you mmj! take your time find the one that is rite for you. you can always pay the 10 bucks and assign one.
Peace!

[Murph]

Good advice ! As you said, many people out there saying they are CG......but they have no grow ! I'd say you need 8 (or more) 90 day perpetual harvests under your belt (which is about 2 years) before attempting to be a CG, unless you had some prior exper. -- hypothetically speaking, we were all "illegal" in some time in the past 30+ years -- this is more about like minded people working together and making sure infiltration is kept to a minimum....with LEO forging cards I have a REAL hard time figuring out how to do that (as we as patient and caregivers need to ability more than LEO to confirm patient status).


From some prior posts on the Norml TALKLIST it was said LARA's MM program will confirm, if one calls their number, press 3, and give them a name and SocSec # they will confirm patient status, CG status, and who their patients are -- still trying to confirm or deny this (as it would be a clear violation of confidentiality and the Law) --

But, WE the patients and people involved in this need the ability to confirm a valid MM card more than anyone --- (as I presume LEO is not letting their employees become MM Patients, so that should be pretty good indication they are not LEO if they have a MM Registry Card --- but surely it is not foolproof and more needs to be done --- I and others just want them out of this for good as they certainly have more to do with 60% of murders going unsolved, rapes are worse at unsolved percentages -- Marijuana is too "easy" --- we need LEO out of it completely and entirely and that will take ALL OF US, voting out people who disagree and voting IN people who agree, election after election -- until that happens they will continue to pick the low hanging fruit like MM users/CG/Patients --- they could care less if We and others are sick.....



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[roadworkahead]

To new patients:

Folks, if you have allergies, any at all, be sure to tell your CG. Many medical cannabis Patients are more susceptible to molds, bacteria, and pesticides than the average recreational consumer. Those with already weakened immune systems need to ask the right questions.
Is your medication going to be grown organically?
What about pests? Do they use natural controls? Most chemical pesticides should be a last ditch effort to save plants, if used at all.

Just a few other things to consider...

don't forget to mention chemical fetilizers... just don't use them !

[phaquetoo]

Alot has changed for me since I started this thread!

I have found an awsome c.g, I am a c.g and truly my mm situation could only get better when I get better at my grow (i am my lady's c.g and only growing for her) I have now had the same c.g (my 2nd one) for over a yr and a half, I have not one time had to call him or ran out of meds, Now he is donating clones,mothers and man already vegged plants to me! so dont get discouraged, If you have a bad c.g now, just inform them you are taking your grow rites back, (dont follow my old advise of heck with em dump em and let them worry, thats not kewl and im sorry for ever saying that) just tell them you are no longer happy with their services and you are going to either assign a new c.g or do your own grow! I dont beleive the state sends your c.g anything when you dump them, we do not need any one going to jail for over their plant count, when they indeed beleived they were legal to grow your 12 plants! It just dont make our movement look good, we now have had our program for 4 yrs? im on my 3rd yr!

my 1st c.g did not have my best intentions in mind when he signed on with me, but that does not mean all are like that, there are now many awsome c.gs out there, and if you have a realy good one, he/she is going to get you growing on your own if at all possible (mine did and still is, and Im not taking my grow rites from him) I beleive me and my present c.g will be connected for a long time, I see no need to get my own grow rites back from him, when he helps me so much! and the 1st thing he asked me when i confided I was going to start growing for my lady was do you want your numbers back?
and I said, I realy dont see any reason at this time or realy anytime in the future, my c.g and I can help each other and be able to do it in a legal manner, meaning if he has something go wrong (which we all know happens) I can help him, and vise versa, the main thing is we take care of our pt's and have a back up plan in case of many things that can go wrong, power failures , mites (sorry for even saying that lol) many things can go wrong. and it can hit you like a brick! and I would love to know (like I do) that my pt and his will be taken care of one way or the other, and it will be the meds they are used to or need!

good luck to all looking for a c.g, things are alot better now, but please get to know your c.g, its not a good idea to start with a c.g who does not already have many grows under their belt, if you start with a newbie, you will be waiting a long time for a good batch of meds! and most definatly if you can grow your own do it, I started my grow up for well under 1000 bucks, and that is everything I needed to get thru a few crops! but I am starting in tents, and using 600 hps in my bud and t-5's in my veg, soon to be switching over to a 600 watt mh for the veg room, It has been so long since my last round of growing I forgot how slow them darn flouro's are lol!

Peace
Jim

[Nemosity]

Jim, you may just need to replace your bulbs, mh is going to through some heat; Great advice when looking for a cg; as always brother!

Edited by Nemosity, 19 May 2012 - 05:10 PM.

[Letterhead954]

Jim, you've got some good advice here. However, I thought I'd bring up another side. I'm a new grower and new cg. It would be ideal for me to have a few grows under my belt before taking on any patients, and I understand what you're saying here. The problem is that there is no way I could afford to grow for a year or two without having some income from growing. I have around $1500 invested along with higher electric bills, and all of my investment is on credit cards because I don't have the cash. Nor can I afford to have my electric bill double. In other words, if I had to wait until I know everything, I wouldn't be able to afford to grow at all. That would make me dependent on a cg, and I wouldn't be able to help any other patients. I'm sure that this would apply to a lot of potential cg's. Fortunately I know some experienced growers, and they have been very helpful, giving me advice along the way. I'm two weeks out from my first harvest and things are looking good. I've had all the usual problems, but with the help I've had I'm going to have a nice harvest.
I don't know how these two things can be reconciled. Your idea is the ideal situation, but it would eliminate people like me from becoming cg's.

[LongHairBri]

the meds offered tell the tale. if you can't get relief off any other meds other than the flavors offered by your caregiver, your either MY patient or you found your match!!

[Willy]

the meds offered tell the tale. if you can't get high off any other meds other than the flavors offered by your caregiver, your either MY patient or you found your match!!

LHB umm get high, wtf, is that the message you want to put forward.. get high boys,, come on .. i thought this was medication.. Kinda hard to put that forward with get high.. shame on you..

[GanjaWarrior]

i think this thread is a great example of the horrible advice out there...

[LongHairBri]

LHB umm get high, wtf, is that the message you want to put forward.. get high boys,, come on .. i thought this was medication.. Kinda hard to put that forward with get high.. shame on you..

LHB umm get high, wtf, is that the message you want to put forward.. get high boys,, come on .. i thought this was medication.. Kinda hard to put that forward with get high.. shame on you..

your right. I was tired last night. I should have used the word "relief" and will change my post.