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#1 HC

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Posted 18 May 2010 - 06:21 AM

I would like to see a sticky up top for links to all meetings with our Government.

This Thursday will be a meeting with Rep George Cushingberry and the Appropriation committee meeting



http://www.house.mi....mitteeschedule/


Date: 5/20/2010 Time: 9:00 AM Meeting: Subcommittee Meeting
Appropriations: Subcommittee on Investigations, Intergovernmental Affairs and OversightChair: Representative George Cushingberry Jr.All bills referred to this committee Location: Room 352, House Appropriations, 3rd Floor, State Capitol Broadcast: Live broadcast - Watch or Listen using Windows Media Player

Agenda:






- Discussion of the State's Medical Marijuana laws
- Discussion of the Public Pension Systems - State and Local
- Discussion of Universal health care



Please make a thread or use this one to keep us up to date on all current upcoming government meeting about our favorite herb.

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Posted 18 May 2010 - 01:06 PM

View PostHC, on 18 May 2010 - 06:21 AM, said:

I would like to see a sticky up top for links to all meetings with our Government.
Or added to a calendar category

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Posted 18 May 2010 - 01:13 PM

Ask and you shall receive.

HC,

I have a job for you now, when you see or hear of a government meeting post it here. If you find a post announcing a government meeting please contact a moderator and ask them to merge it here.

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Posted 18 May 2010 - 10:19 PM

Thanks :)

I just want to see more people at the meetings and it would be easier if they were put in one place for everyone to find and then maybe more people would show up.

After all, it is OUR government.

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 12:28 AM

It's a great idea! Although many people may be like me and it takes some planning for a trip of this length. If we could get them posted up with enough headroom, maybe some could even arrange car pooling, etc. Awesome idea!

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 09:25 PM

The meeting has been cancelled by the link above for the appropriation committee

At least it was posted up tonight.

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 06:33 AM

Date: 5/20/2010 - Canceled :angry:

Not all meetings are on house tv
Time: 9:00 AM
Meeting: Subcommittee Meeting
Appropriations: Subcommittee on Investigations, Intergovernmental Affairs and Oversight
Chair: Representative George Cushingberry Jr.All bills referred to this committee
Location: Room 352, House Appropriations, 3rd Floor, State Capitol
Broadcast: Live broadcast - Watch or Listen using Windows Media Player

Agenda: - Discussion of the State's Medical Marijuana laws
- Discussion of the Public Pension Systems - State and Local
- Discussion of Universal health care

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:02 PM

It is so good to see Good News

Safermich friends, it is my great pleasure to report the Detroit City Clerk has officially certified the Coalition for Safer Detroit ballot initiative petitions we turned in two weeks ago.
This means the Coalition has secured enough signatures to qualify for ballot status, in addition to meeting all city and state legal requirements for the construction of the petition form itself (which means we will not have to litigate in order to get on the ballot)!
The Detroit City Council will meet on Wed May 26 at 10 am to decide whether to pass the measure into law as written, or send it to the voters in November. We do not expect the Council to pass this into law themselves. If our initiative is passed into law by the voters, it will no longer be a crime in Detroit to use or possess and ounce or less of mj on private property, by persons who have attained the age of 21 years.
In any event we are home free and gearing up for the campaign ahead. Many thanks to one and all for your encouragement and good energy!
Check out our website at www.saferdetroit.net


Thanks goes out to Tim Beck and Crew for putting this into action.



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Posted 25 May 2010 - 08:47 PM

I just received this emai

Safermich friends, some of the principal leaders of "Cannabis Patients United"(CPU) who are funding the services of a Lansing lobbyist to protect the interests of patients, caregivers and "Compassion Clubs" (and are totally neutral on the issue of "dispensaries"), met with key Michigan State Police (MSP) legislative representatives in suburban Detroit yesterday.
The group met to discuss various issues regarding the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act. One of the MSP representatives is an attorney.
During the course of the meeting, the issue of "dispensaries" and "patient to patient transfer" came up. In no uncertain terms one of these MSP executives (the attorney) said in her interpretation of the law, both dispensaries and patient to patient transfer are illegal and in so many words, the only legitimate distribution system in Michigan is the "caregiver" system. She went on to say that the MSP and other police organizations are now actively investigating various dispensaries and it is highly likely these entities will be busted at some point down the road.
Anyway, I am just passing this information on from CPU, for you all to use as you see fit.

CPU does not represent me or my family. Why am I not notified of these meeting?

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:03 AM

I never voted for CPU to talk to anyone about my rights. I have a vote and a voice. Private meeting about my rights is very wrong. I would like to see the minutes of the meeting to see what they are discussing on OUR behalf.

I am part of the 63% that voted this law in and I dont 'think that less then 1% should hold meetings without the public being told about them.

I have met Mary and I for one do not like her and she better not ever touch me again trying to make me be quiet while speaking to Ms Brim.

She and CPU are trying to get the State to send letters out when the funds for that could be put into getting the new printers up and running in the same time frame that they would take to just write the letter to everyones agreement.


So I have to pay to go to these meeting now? Dealing with public affairs should be public since I am part of the public that these meeting will effect.



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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:42 AM

Actually HC, CPU has every right to form a group and meet with government officials, just like any citizens of our state may do. MMMA has their lobbyist's as well. Greg Stark and Julie Schneider (who is from California) are the MMMA lobbyists, they announced it publically in Lansing this week themselves. There are often many lobbyists on both sides of an issue. There is no popular vote needed to hire a lobbyist by anyone.

As far as letters being sent from the MDCH to patients and caregivers. Your understanding does not appear to be complete. We feel this in fact is a very good thing that all patients and caregivers have been asking for: a way to confirm with law enforcement that they are legal, despite the fact they are waiting for long periods of time for their cards.

The MSP has requested the MDCH issue a letter to each applicant to the program who is approved, but will not get there card for some time to come. The letter would contain a pin number that would allow law enforcement to confirm the approval is real. CPU was directly involved in this discussion, and we are convinced this is a step in the right direction towards solving some pretty big problems with patient arrests over not having a card with a confirmable registry number.

As far as the printers go: The MDCH has been approved to obtain the two new high speed printers. They now must go through the state required bidding process before the purchase can be made. The MDCH feels that will happen in June, about the time the have cleared the physical space to house their two new employees (who have already been hired). The MDCH has advised the MSP that the two new high speed printers will allow them to get current on card issuance and renewal.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:17 AM

From where I am sitting, CPU is getting things done. Clarifications and getting MSP to accept the 21 day rule are only good things.
I am sure people are upset about not being notified but ... when you aren't involved ... you aren't involved.
That being said I am sure Cannabis Patients United would accept donations to continue their work.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:24 AM

View Posthayduke, on 26 May 2010 - 07:42 AM, said:

The MSP has requested the MDCH issue a letter to each applicant to the program who is approved, but will not get there card for some time to come. The letter would contain a pin number that would allow law enforcement to confirm the approval is real. CPU was directly involved in this discussion, and we are convinced this is a step in the right direction towards solving some pretty big problems with patient arrests over not having a card with a confirmable registry number.

"CPU was directly involved in this discussion"

They sure were .. they tried to stop me from asking for these letters to be sent out at the hearings.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:30 AM

"She went on to say that the MSP and other police organizations are now actively investigating various dispensaries and it is highly likely these entities will be busted at some point down the road."

Mike Cox(sucker) attorney general and candidate for governor of michigan would never take political advantage by exploiting medical marijuana patients , caregivers, or this community by timing raids on medical marijuana dispensaries just before this Novembers elections. Am I right, or am I right?

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:36 AM

Hearings? You mean the January hearings before initiation?

Obviously, MDCH wasn't ready or wanted people to follow procedure and bureaucracy.

Also I really don't see how making a comment like this is productive for anyone.

You should be glad that it is in their language, not butthurt because you tried to do it as well and weren't able for whatever reason.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:46 AM

I guess you had to be there.

View PostTodd Moser, on 26 May 2010 - 08:36 AM, said:

Hearings? You mean the January hearings before initiation?

Obviously, MDCH wasn't ready or wanted people to follow procedure and bureaucracy.

Also I really don't see how making a comment like this is productive for anyone.

You should be glad that it is in their language, not butthurt because you tried to do it as well and weren't able for whatever reason.


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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:48 AM

View Postpeanutbutter, on 26 May 2010 - 08:46 AM, said:

I guess you had to be there.

Well 8 hours is a bit far.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:58 AM

PB I do not know what you are talking about. I have attended all CPU meetings or been given a written report. There is no effort to stop your work in way shape or form. We are just doing our work quietly and without drama. If you have information that would prove otherwise, please bring it forward.

What date are you referring to? What proof do you have?

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 09:05 AM

Cannabis Patients United is a wonderful group. It was formed by members from the MMMA that were NOT happy with the direction the MMMA appeared to be going. Just as no one voted for the MMMA to become an entity, no one voted for CPU. No one HAD to.

The sky ISN'T falling. CPU is NOT trying to change ANYTHING. ONLY trying to get some answers. Answers we ALL desperately need.

Why the hurt feelings and toes feeling stepped on? A group has formed that made a decision and moved on it. ANYONE is welcome to join! Just as ANYONE is welcome to join the MMMA. (I'm still a paid member here until August)

What is the big deal? Unless, it's just ego's being crushed. If that's the case, we need to get OVER it! Did you HEAR the name? Cannabis Patients United! We shouldn't care WHO get it done.............as long as it GETS done!

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 09:25 AM

View PostTodd Moser, on 26 May 2010 - 08:17 AM, said:

I am sure people are upset about not being notified but ... when you aren't involved ... you aren't involved.
That being said I am sure Cannabis Patients United would accept donations to continue their work.

So if I pay for a vote with CPU, I can get info on what? I have to say that I make all meeting that I am informed of. This CPU is a force that is not working with us at all. I will be at the next government meeting and hope to see more then just the few that do show up.

8hrs, Todd, more excuses to not show up. I read more people say its 2hrs, 4hrs and more. I will and do make the meetings you don't. I myself was being talked down to and Mary physically put her hands on me and said to shut p when we at the last Appropriation meeting. I will not tolerate that again.

On the printers. I spoke with Ms. Brim after the meeting about them and have my info first hand and not from what others want to tell me. The vendor for the printers are not on the list of approved vendors so it has to go out for bid. They have 45 days to have this done and in Rep Cushingberrys hands. Ms. Brim's boss said he could have it with in 30 days. They could do upto 320 cards an hour. 2 machines will do 640 an hour but the staff can't fill envelopes that quickly.

The 2 hired was told to me to be 5 and not 2. The people in the space the MDCH needs will be moved by June 15th.


The cost and time for these letters to be done will take away from the production of the cards and the cards are what we need in hand in 21 days, PERIOD . Screw the letter and put the time and money into getting the cards out.



CPU does not represent me or my family. Nor do they represent my views. To my knowledge, Mary is niether Patient of Caregiver and for that reason alone, she has no clue what I feel.

If someone tells me of upcoming meeting, I'll be there.




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