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#1 xxsesimeseedxx

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 10:52 PM

Ok, the law states that a caregiver can possess 2.5 ozs of usable mj per patient, and they patient can also posses 2.5 ozs. Is there anything in the law that states HOW OFTEN a patient may obtain and possess the 2.5 ounces?
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Posted 02 June 2010 - 11:05 PM

I've got a patient who buys 2.5 oz. twice a week! helps make up for the 2 patients that use a 1/2oz a month. guess it all works out. I can't help but wonder how ANYONE can smoke more than me every week, he almost HAS to be diverting, but I don't think its my problem. EVERY one of my patients recieve up to 2oz. per month free, depending on use. having someone to buy up my extra med legally has helped keep prices down and the free meds flowing!
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Posted 02 June 2010 - 11:31 PM

How long are you curing your product? What do you label your product stages? As long as the product is properly labeled then this issue should be mute. Follow the proper labeling management will give any lawyer a head start in protecting your rights. :rolleyes:

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 03:17 AM

Ok, the law states that a caregiver can possess 2.5 ozs of usable mj per patient, and they patient can also posses 2.5 ozs. Is there anything in the law that states HOW OFTEN a patient may obtain and possess the 2.5 ounces?

No but as a patient your limited to 2.5 ozs at any given time no more .

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 12:20 PM

I take it the product drying is not useable
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 12:28 PM

I take it the product drying is not useable
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drying product will count. If its a plant hanging it counts against plant count. Buds drying will count toward usable amount.

Kinda sucks if your only a patient.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 02:55 AM

drying product will count. If its a plant hanging it counts against plant count. Buds drying will count toward usable amount.

Kinda sucks if your only a patient.



I will be pleased with 2.5 oz and 12 beautiful curing plants hanging in my garage this winter. :) ...And, my electricity bill will be substantially reduced.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 06:31 AM

I take it the product drying is not useable
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You got it half rite! you take it product drying is not usable! leo will just take it! lol Posted Image

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 08:08 AM

I've got a patient who buys 2.5 oz. twice a week! helps make up for the 2 patients that use a 1/2oz a month. guess it all works out. I can't help but wonder how ANYONE can smoke more than me every week, he almost HAS to be diverting, but I don't think its my problem. EVERY one of my patients recieve up to 2oz. per month free, depending on use. having someone to buy up my extra med legally has helped keep prices down and the free meds flowing!


5 ounces a week? rotflmfao.....
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 01:21 PM

5 ounces a week? rotflmfao.....


Can you say diversion? Seriously I would be worried that WHEN this patient gets busted, he will be offered a deal if he flips on you.


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Posted 05 June 2010 - 03:34 PM

Patients black marketing meds is a serious issue, but as long as the caregiver is staying within the legal transferrable amounts they are protected by the law. As to what is considered usable amounts, that's yet another part of the law being interpreted county to county. But honestly, some patients do use large amounts. I had a cancer patient who passed away that was eating approximately 7 to 10 grams a day in pill form. 00 gel caps can contain approximately .5 to .7 grams per pill. She was taking 6 pills before each meal, along with vaporising meds as well. She lived 5 months longer than expected, and her oncologist stated that she believed it was due to the cannabinoid regimen I put the patient on. This same oncologist was dead set against medical marihuana in the beginning. Unfortunately I didn't begin working with the patient until 17 months after she was diagnosed with brain cancer. I honestly belive that had treatment began earlier things may have been much different.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 09:50 PM

I dont think its the caregivers spot to question someones compsumption. Its the patients plants either way, if they are breaking a law the LEO will get them. look at the guy in williamston. It seems like some caregivers think its their job to regulate others maraijuana consumption which is wrong
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 10:09 PM

I dont think its the caregivers spot to question someones compsumption. Its the patients plants either way, if they are breaking a law the LEO will get them. look at the guy in williamston. It seems like some caregivers think its their job to regulate others maraijuana consumption which is wrong

I dont agree with that at all.


If your patient is going through 5 Oz's a week their moving your legal cannabis on the black market thus putting the caregiver under Leos microsope and don't give me that 'as long as your legal" nonsense law enforcement has raided dozens of legal grows and reeked havoc on sick people once a grow was discovered and reported by people with axes to grind or just lousy neighbors.

Over a dozen threads on this website detail how legal growers had their houses raided and meds and equipment taken all while within the Michigan medical marijuana law parameters.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 11:01 PM

I dont agree with that at all.


If your patient is going through 5 Oz's a week their moving your legal cannabis on the black market thus putting the caregiver under Leos microsope and don't give me that 'as long as your legal" nonsense law enforcement has raided dozens of legal grows and reeked havoc on sick people once a grow was discovered and reported by people with axes to grind or just lousy neighbors.

Over a dozen threads on this website detail how legal growers had their houses raided and meds and equipment taken all while within the Michigan medical marijuana law parameters.


Why assume its going to the black market? Most likely its getting transferred to other legal patients. A lot of patients that have a good enough cg will pick up patients of their own and supply them with their cgs weed while they get their grow on. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:18 AM

Why assume its going to the black market? Most likely its getting transferred to other legal patients. A lot of patients that have a good enough cg will pick up patients of their own and supply them with their cgs weed while they get their grow on. There's nothing wrong with that.

If this guy taking the 5 Oz's a week then gets popped doing p2p transfers by some overzealous LEO or if hes even suspected of trafficking that could lead LEO back to the caregivers home who they will more likely see as a drug dealer instead of a legal carded caregiver .

A lot of law enforcement officers still dont believe that p2p is legal .

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 06:36 AM

Can you say diversion? Seriously I would be worried that WHEN this patient gets busted, he will be offered a deal if he flips on you.


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What is to worry about? as long as you only give your patient no more than 2.5 oz each visit! If you have 5 patients and 3 of them only require lets say 1/2 oz a month, what is wrong with making up the dif with some one that smokes 5 oz's a week? good way to get rid of ovatures! Posted Image no im not stupid, but I realy have a friend who goes thru 1/4 lb a week, he smokes them like cigs, he is a cancer patient in remision, he smokes WEED like I smoke tobaco, I most def can not keep up with him, when I would drive him to the hospital for treatment, he burned 9 in 3 hr trip!

so their realy are people out ther that use it and then there are people who lets say share it!
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 06:40 AM

Why assume its going to the black market? Most likely its getting transferred to other legal patients. A lot of patients that have a good enough cg will pick up patients of their own and supply them with their cgs weed while they get their grow on. There's nothing wrong with that.



Agreed! Im glad that some one in here is not on their HIGH Horse!
Peace to you nsmn8r!
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 06:59 AM

I dont agree with that at all.


If your patient is going through 5 Oz's a week their moving your legal cannabis on the black market thus putting the caregiver under Leos microsope and don't give me that 'as long as your legal" nonsense law enforcement has raided dozens of legal grows and reeked havoc on sick people once a grow was discovered and reported by people with axes to grind or just lousy neighbors.

Over a dozen threads on this website detail how legal growers had their houses raided and meds and equipment taken all while within the Michigan medical marijuana law parameters.



who says it is the patients plants? you can have upto 12 plants per patient, I suppose when your patient quits you , your gonna give them 12 grown plants and the 2.5 cured you have for them, for nothing, sheet I didnt ever even see my plants from my old c.g let alone get any back when i took c.g off!

I get all of my mm grade product off of the so called black market now, and Im not to sure there are to many around here that could get me mm as good as im getting now! in fact I know, unless you also have been growing it for the last 20 yrs! and if you have been than get off that high horse, you were once illegal, what make every one so perfect now that they can legaly do it? it gets tiring hearing about black market, if those people hadnt continued the strans out there they wouldnt be there, plus all the new ones the so called black market new strans! I would imagine swampy's free leonard was started in the black market eh?

I know there are some patients who have just started using weed (mm) for the first time in their lives for help with there disabilitys. but beleive me they are the minority, most legal mm card holders have burned before they were legal and were part of the black market, including myself! Im not rightious and im not god so i dont judge any one, if you break the law you will go to jail, but we dont need to turn our back on our life long friends because they use recreationaly, or they grow and dont want to register!

I know we are all just trying to stay within the legal limits, have you tried growing 12 plants each for 5 patients? You tell me how you are going to stay under the legal limit? If you are a newbie you should at the very least be over a lil at crop time, if not take a class, cause I have no clue how i could ever have 60 plants and not go over the limit! well yea I do, I will have several mothers, clones, veg, and flower all totaling less than 50 plants, and I can garantee I will have enough meds at all times for 5 patients and stay under the socalled mi limits, im worried about uncle sam so I wont go over 50 even though my state says i can have 72 including my own, wow what an awsome basement of green 72 plants! I know Id have to give tons away quickly to not have more than im supposed to!

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 08:05 AM

just a reminder it says that a patient can have up to 2.5 oz at a time so if he comes over monday and gets 2.5 ozs then comes over tuesday and gets another 2.5 oz as a caregiver u can do that no where in the law does it state that he u can only give him 2.5 oz a week or month it says that he can get 2.5 oz at one time it does not say how often he can do that if it is going to the black market or he is doing ptp transfers that is not your concern that being said if i had a patient that was getting 5ozs a week u can be sure he would be paying street prices like phaquhatoo said if he has cancer i can see it but not really otherwise sorry but i would be charging him street prices for that amount of meds a week and i would love to know how u are getting more than qp A WEEK would love to know how to set that rotation up thats great but dont u have trouble with overrages even with the max amount of plants that just seems like alot every week pm me so we can talk

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 09:04 AM

If this guy taking the 5 Oz's a week then gets popped doing p2p transfers by some overzealous LEO or if hes even suspected of trafficking that could lead LEO back to the caregivers home who they will more likely see as a drug dealer instead of a legal carded caregiver .

A lot of law enforcement officers still dont believe that p2p is legal .


We should not give in to this groups interpretation of the law.

Some of you are adopting the leo way of thinking. Its the patients right to have the product of their plants. 2.5 ozs at a time. If he or she believes in p2p then that's their biz. They could also be a caregiver, Donating to a cancer patient, making oil & saving until they have a complete 60 day supply to be ready for themselves ( I am doing this for when things go downhill). If your their caregiver why don't you know ?

The point is you are THEIR CAREGIVER , Not there keeper. If you are completely legal & still worried than maybe we should have a closer relationship with our patients. A discussion and agreements on p2p and other issues should be common place before contacts are entered into.

I think legally the patient is allowed all of the product from their plants, 2.5 at a time......If a caregiver withholds the patients product because of unfounded suspicion than they could be open to a lawsuit......

I'm not going to put restriction on my patients that aren't in the law....................I'll leave that to LEO.......




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