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I was taking 8-12 vicodins or percocets a day if I was on the 5-7.5/325 but on the 10/325 I took 6-10.. I took them every day combined with my other psych meds. Now I take 4-6 5/325 maybe two or three times a week (whenever the MJ doesn't seem to be enough) and he has me on Cymbalta as well.. I go back to pain management dr on the 31st to get an EMG done and see if I can change my meds, but my narcotic pill in take has drastically reduced since.

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I was taking 8-12 vicodins or percocets a day if I was on the 5-7.5/325 but on the 10/325 I took 6-10.. I took them every day combined with my other psych meds. Now I take 4-6 5/325 maybe two or three times a week (whenever the MJ doesn't seem to be enough) and he has me on Cymbalta as well.. I go back to pain management dr on the 31st to get an EMG done and see if I can change my meds, but my narcotic pill in take has drastically reduced since.

 

Hi Caramella,

Congratulations on that fantastic drop in opiates ! If you look at total pill intake over the whole week, would it be fair to say that you gone from up to 84 vicodins per week down to a maximum of 18 per week which equals a reduction of 80% ? That is fantastic and you have my admiration and awe. I will be interested in the reaction of your pain doctor-please keep us informed. May I ask re the basis of your pain condition ?Many thanks,

Dr. jinx

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i had refused to take vicodin and flexoril long before i became legal, because i knew what they did to me. i just became legal last Thursday, and began to smoke then. i smoked Thursday night and Sunday afternoon. i am feeling GREAT! no nerve pain, and no stomach issues. i cant wait to see Jamie Lee Curtis promoting Cannabia! instead of Activia for digestive regularity! :o)

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Hi Caramella,

Congratulations on that fantastic drop in opiates ! If you look at total pill intake over the whole week, would it be fair to say that you gone from up to 84 vicodins per week down to a maximum of 18 per week which equals a reduction of 80% ? That is fantastic and you have my admiration and awe. I will be interested in the reaction of your pain doctor-please keep us informed. May I ask re the basis of your pain condition ?Many thanks,

Dr. jinx

 

I dropped about half.. because there are still days where I do take more than 4 and there are weeks I take it more than 2 or 3 days. My pain doctor likes this but is still baffled as to where the pain is coming from. I get severe muscle spasms in my shoulders and into my neck and upper arms. I also get an intermittent stabbing pain in my mid back where I have a disc deteriorating.. hence the degenerative disc disease. All of this causes me frequent migraines and headaches as well as immense back pain on a daily basis. Not to mention I have my right ankle that I am about to have completely fused in January. It is party fused right now which was my 4th ankle surgery to try and reduce the pain and help me to walk (I was in a wheelchair a long time). So I have a lot of pain in my ankle as well.. its kind of like a domino effect.. one thing starts to hurt and then everything follows. I am trying to my hardest to not use opiates, but it is getting harder because the MM doesn't always work :(

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ok hello people so lets start this out i was in a semi accedent 6-3-07 flip it on driver side my pain pills is as follow 60 mg morpine 2xday 10.500 loratab 4 time a day ambiam cr 12.5 1 tad cybmulta 60 mg 1 tad and 800 mg ibprobine 3 tad and look to see if mrs mary will reduce the pills sure the med doc want to doc this good luck i still got to get in and see a mmj doc so ill update at a later date in life

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You can put me down for a 100% reduction.

 

10/325 hydrocodone/APAP (up to 10/day), Ibuprophin, whatever the hell those steroids were, no more darn Humira, no more seroquel.... yes seroquel, no more Nexium. And the darn SSRIs, gone. I don't think I've had to pay for a prescription since our pet rabbit was sick three months ago(he took the prescriptions and still died anyway).

 

I feel as though my brain has recently been paroled from underwater prison where thoughts creep by at the speed of molasses, swirling into diluted pools of confusion. No, not sweet tasty candy molasses thoughts either, but the bitter sulfur kind...

I am now free.

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Wish i could paste my Veterans Affairs medical records on here.... 25 flippin pages of medications ive been on.. and i only been goin to the v.a. for 3 years!!! been on EVERYTHING for pain from methadone, morphine, anexsia, fetanayl, oxycottin,dilaudid u name it i was on it and im only 25 (my v.a. doctor actually went to prison for OVER PRESCRIBING imagine that hey) ... i was straight addicted, now they got me on suboxone...that crap is addicting as hell too... u just cannot win!!! BUT.... starting smoking again and cut my suboxone down by alot!! I cannot mix M.J. and suboxone cuz i get head dizzy and sick!!! and MJ helps way more wit pain anyways!!! went from straight needle junky to a "normal" person.... really proud of myself!!! THANK YOU M.M.

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i had refused to take vicodin and flexoril long before i became legal, because i knew what they did to me. i just became legal last Thursday, and began to smoke then. i smoked Thursday night and Sunday afternoon. i am feeling GREAT! no nerve pain, and no stomach issues. i cant wait to see Jamie Lee Curtis promoting Cannabia! instead of Activia for digestive regularity! :o)

You have been legal for over a month now.....are you still as positive as ever ? I suspect that you are...what is the nature of your medical challenge ?

Dr. Jinx

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I was taking 4. 10 mg methadones 4. 1mg xanax. 2, 10 mg flexeril. and a whole lot of other crap for over 12 yrs, (i almost died when i was forced off of them) now i only do weed for the last yr and a half!

 

Peace

FTW

JIm

 

Hi Phaquetoo !!!

This is another very impressive reversal re the use of the Narcotic Analgesics following MMJ useage. May I ask the nature of your illness/injury ?

Many thanks,

Dr. Jinx

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You can put me down for a 100% reduction.

 

10/325 hydrocodone/APAP (up to 10/day), Ibuprophin, whatever the hell those steroids were, no more darn Humira, no more seroquel.... yes seroquel, no more Nexium. And the darn SSRIs, gone. I don't think I've had to pay for a prescription since our pet rabbit was sick three months ago(he took the prescriptions and still died anyway).

 

I feel as though my brain has recently been paroled from underwater prison where thoughts creep by at the speed of molasses, swirling into diluted pools of confusion. No, not sweet tasty candy molasses thoughts either, but the bitter sulfur kind...

I am now free.

 

hi Greenhouse !!!!!

Clearly, MMJ has made one hell of a difference in your medications as well as your life !!! May I inquire re the basis of your illness/injury ?

Usually SSRI are prescribed for depression...did the utilization of MMJ result in a more positive outlook re your life ?

Many thanks for your post !!!!

Dr. jinx

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When my back pain (it's legit) started around '95, I was placed on vicodin. I was given a 500mg script even until this year. I had been on it so long that I needed to take 3 pills, vs the 1 per day prescribed, in order to gain any relief. I have been through numerous specialists, physical therepists, chiropractors, had 4 shots in my back, xrays and MRIs. Funny thing is, these educated people could not give me a diagnosis! 15 years of treatment, yet no answer other than to take some pills. I had been telling my primary physician for the last 2 years that I did not want to be on pills the rest of my life. His answer was that "it looks like you may have to be". After educating myself about some of the relief of pain that marijuana can bring, I started treating myself when I needed it, even though I have been smoking for years, maybe I never did at the right time since I've always been a before bed smoker. I found that this had helped me. I got the guts to ask my physician about using marijuana for treatment and me got a little agressive with me stating that "I don't think that's the answer to your problems", yet not able to give me an answer. He followed up the visit with attempting to give me a script for oxycotin. After that, I told him no thanks, stopped going to see him and took over myself. My had pain started in my back, but over the years it has strangely spread to almost every joint on the right side of my body, shoulder, neck, elbow, hip, knee, even the big toe, lol. Got blood tests and all, they say not arthritis, but can't tell me what the issue is. All that I know is that doing my own thing with exercise, trying to eat right *choff munchies choff* and self medicating has made me the most pain free in over the past 10 years. I do still need to take the vicodin when I get a spasm, but I no longer depend on it.

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Hey Jinx, so, at least among this forum, the evidence is clear. Given the choice of a natural and safe herb versus deadly pharmacutical drugs, medical marijuana is overwhelmingly more effective with fewer side effects.

The question to Ms. Cooper, Mr. Bouchard, "with all these facts here, why do you insist on condemning individual humans to a life spent getting sicker and sicker on these pills? You can see that human lives are changed for the better, that we are healthier, happier, more productive citizens. You can't possibly hate individual humans and their rights so much that you would be in effect a shill for the drug companies. Or, do you think the interests of the drug companies are a higher priority than the legitimate interests of individual human beings who have harmed no one?"

Jinx, I don't know what you plan to do with all the data, but I wish some of these elected and non-elected government officials could personally talk with each of us.

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Hey Jinx, so, at least among this forum, the evidence is clear. Given the choice of a natural and safe herb versus deadly pharmacutical drugs, medical marijuana is overwhelmingly more effective with fewer side effects.

The question to Ms. Cooper, Mr. Bouchard, "with all these facts here, why do you insist on condemning individual humans to a life spent getting sicker and sicker on these pills? You can see that human lives are changed for the better, that we are healthier, happier, more productive citizens. You can't possibly hate individual humans and their rights so much that you would be in effect a shill for the drug companies. Or, do you think the interests of the drug companies are a higher priority than the legitimate interests of individual human beings who have harmed no one?"

Jinx, I don't know what you plan to do with all the data, but I wish some of these elected and non-elected government officials could personally talk with each of us.

 

Hi Bisharoo !!!

These data a quite impressive !!!! I have other testimonial data from personal/professional contacts [ I am a Licensed Psychologist who works with auto-injury pain patients and the issue of MMJ for their pain condition comes up often as most are being treated with narcotic analgesics like Vicoden, Percocet, Morphine, Fentenyl, etc.] which is quite consistent to what is reported here.So this is ONE reason for acquiring this data.

The second is that I regale my friends and associates with the value of MMJ and the need to ultimately legalize MJ as a recreational alternative which is much safer than alcohol.

And thirdly, I hope to ultimately make myself available for talks with potentially interested groups as a speaker who has had some real experience in working with people with serious pain issues who have found the MMJ option to be very useful. What is particularly interesting is the large number of individuals who make use MMJ for their pain but avoid getting high and use cannabis to take the edge off their pain so that they can function more effectively.

Dr. jinx

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Update for Dr. Jinx.

 

I have now cut my norco use in half, well its been a few days and I seem to be ok. I was taking 4 norco 325/10 a day and now only take 2 a day. I take 1 in the morning and 1 after dinner to right before bedtime depending on how I feel. I have not increased my cannabis use. Up to two grams of high grade cannabis. Hope this helps.

Have a great day to Dr. Jinx,

Zombie

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Hello jinx,

 

Let me start by saying im glad you started this blog to make public the personal objective testimonials of many previously pharm-addicts such as myself! I began with a cocktail of meds after a violent snowmobile accident in Feb, 1997 when I was hit by another rider travelling at a much higher rate of speed than i was. After phys therapy and shock therapy failed, i was reffered to a pain clinic that administered steroid injections. They helped for about 2 weeks each. Long story short, it was determined 8 years ago that I have degenerative disc disease and arthritis in the sacrioliac (sp) joints. I have been a mj user on and off throughout my life and can attest to the fact that high grade cannabis has a way of calming my mind and body so as to create a very pleasant comfortable experience making the pain disappear at times, but it is rare that i have money to buy that quality of meds. I make my own simpson oil, and ingest it for the peripheral nerve pain I experience fairly intensly everyday. I am off all meds except motrin occasionally, and I have a script of ultram that is untouched (they don't work for me and they have side effects) since i got them 3 months ago. I have my own grow which I started in May. One harvest last month and did fairly well for my first time indoors! Thanks to all in this community! KGB

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I was on vicoden, morphine patches as well as a cocktail of nerve medication. I damaged the nerves in my leg beyond repair while deployed overseas. Nothing was working and was cunsulting a doctor about a Spinal Cord Stimulator. I have been treating myself for almost 2 months. I'm nolonger taking any Pharma Medications or using the Patches. The pain is still there but at managable levels. I do notice certain strains provide greater pain relief while others allow me to sleep by reducing the muscle spasms. I tend medicate myself enough to take the edge of throughout the day. In the evening I will medicate myself to yield a high and allow me to fall asleep. Hope this helps.

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I was on vicoden, morphine patches as well as a cocktail of nerve medication. I damaged the nerves in my leg beyond repair while deployed overseas. Nothing was working and was cunsulting a doctor about a Spinal Cord Stimulator. I have been treating myself for almost 2 months. I'm nolonger taking any Pharma Medications or using the Patches. The pain is still there but at managable levels. I do notice certain strains provide greater pain relief while others allow me to sleep by reducing the muscle spasms. I tend medicate myself enough to take the edge of throughout the day. In the evening I will medicate myself to yield a high and allow me to fall asleep. Hope this helps.

Many thanks Smotpoke !!!!

I continue to be VERY impressed at how cannabis is able to dramatically reduce the amount of narcotic meds for pain patients...as well as increase the quality of their life !!!

Dr. Jinx

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Many thanks Smotpoke !!!!

I continue to be VERY impressed at how cannabis is able to dramatically reduce the amount of narcotic meds for pain patients...as well as increase the quality of their life !!!

Dr. Jinx

 

What's up with the name change Dr. Jinx? Wanted to get more personal Jimbo? :D

 

Had to check to see if ya were banned..... I knew better though....

 

Welcome back!

Edited by Royal Smoke
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What's up with the name change Dr. Jinx? Wanted to get more personal Jimbo? :D

 

Had to check to see if ya were banned..... I knew better though....

 

Welcome back!

Many thanks for the welcome, Royal Smoke.

The fact is "Jinx" got lost in the system and so I ended up with "jimbojinx"....just one of life's little frustrations.Aside from the modification, I am as supportive of this site and its causes as ever and I end up checking this site about three times per day.

I especially am interested in the postings or Michael Korman.

Dr. jinx

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I would like to get some idea of the percentage of Pain Pill Reductions amongst our MMJ users here-like is the average 25%, or 50% or ? I know that if we can get more stats SHOWING that MMJ is in fact saving the Health System money, we can help to further the acceptance of MMJ in a BIG way!!

 

So if you are taking MMJ for Pain Reduction, please list the number and dosage per day of the specific pain-directed meds you took/take pre and post your utilization of MMJ.I promise to calculate the results daily if there is enough interest in this issue.

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I was on Baclofen, 20mg, 3-4x a day, plus vicodin 500, 3-4 a day, plus flexeril 20mg, 2 a day, an antidepressant they told me to use for the nerve pain... now... I weaned myself off all of it, got clean for 60 days, and I now have the same releif but with no pills other than one for my thyroid and my blood pressure.

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I was on Baclofen, 20mg, 3-4x a day, plus vicodin 500, 3-4 a day, plus flexeril 20mg, 2 a day, an antidepressant they told me to use for the nerve pain... now... I weaned myself off all of it, got clean for 60 days, and I now have the same releif but with no pills other than one for my thyroid and my blood pressure.

 

Many thanks for your report and congratulations on weaning off the heavy pain meds. I am curious as to what caused your pain..I would assume an automobile or a bike accident ?

 

Some of my contacts smoke their MMJ at such a level as to not get HIGH but to take the edge off so they can do what has to be done around the house. Would this describe you ?

 

If you feel more comfortable not going into these details on the board you can contact me directly, while still retaining full anonymity, by just clicking on my name to send me a Personal Message.

 

Once again, many thanks for the feedback.

Dr. Jinx

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I was taking Vicodin 750mg 2-4 times a day along with a naproxin or 2. When I HAVE ENOUGH high quality cannabis I do not need to take the vicodin anymore at all. The problem that I have been running into is that I have only just obtained my legal MMJ status about 1 month ago and am still piecing together the equipment i need to grow my own medicine so im stuck getting it from a patient for now at a high price. I consume about 2oz per month ideally and i cant afford that and the equipment I need to grow currently. I did, however wean myself off Vicodin completely, my doctor and I are very pleased with the results MMJ has had in regards to this, not just because of the addictive nature of Vicodin but also because it reaaaly messed with my digestive system.

 

I am hoping that once I finish getting the equipment I will no longer have to ration my MMJ so closeley. When I smoke as much as I need I function much better that I ever did with Vicodin.

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