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[BIG C]

I really need a replacement caregiver. This is my situation.

I began my arrangement with 3 simple agreements: (Moderators: please warn me if I step over the line; no disrespect or bad intentions)

1. One free zip a month (at minimum)

2. All other needs will be half-street

3. Available medication (up to one patients expected need).


So far, only ONE of those agreements has been met within the last 3 months of me being a patient.


All I'm looking for is a Caregiver within 0 to 15 miles of Midland who can meet those needs at least. I'm an honest and trusting person; I can only hope the people who tell me something will follow the same logic and courtesy. If that seems like a reasonable arrangement, let's talk.


Thanks for the interest,
Big C

[peanutbutter]

I think your expectations are unreasonable.

If someone promises you all of those things, I would expect them to fail the agreement.

[BIG C]

I'm sorry, I'm failing to see how one free a month, what one patient would need being available monthly, and a set price for a patient, is being unreasonable. Maybe you could let me know what patients usually expect?

Edited by BIG C, 06 February 2011 - 03:23 AM.

[BIG C]

As far as expectations go, all those agreements were posed to me. My caregiver began on those terms. Not me. I just readily agreed. Hearing plenty of people stating the "one free" a month and seeming pleased in general seems to cover the gambit of what my expectations are. Please someone step in and correct me if I'm way out there. I'll be switching caregivers for the first time, so I'm not used to getting the run-around in this arena. Basically, I don't know if I'm getting screwed unless I'm aware of a standard. Please forgive my ignorance. I just refuse to believe that an agreement in any form should be blatantly broken without some form of compromise. In my case, my current caregiver could give a s**t less.

[peanutbutter]

I'm sorry, I'm failing to see how one free a month, what one patient would need being available monthly, and a set price for a patient, is being unreasonable. Maybe you could let me know what patients usually expect?

You are not setting a price. Except that it would be half of .... something. Who would determine what "street" is? And would there be a limit on how much?

One free oz per month? I've seen people offer that. Some of those probably do come through. Probably even most. But I've also seen complaints where someone promises that free o per month and then doesn't come through.

Meda available now .. that means someone would be growing your plants for months before they met you.

A person that would be able to do all of those things would be rare in the state. But within 15 miles of Midland???

[BIG C]

You are not setting a price. Except that it would be half of .... something. Who would determine what "street" is? And would there be a limit on how much?

One free oz per month? I've seen people offer that. Some of those probably do come through. Probably even most. But I've also seen complaints where someone promises that free o per month and then doesn't come through.

Meda available now .. that means someone would be growing your plants for months before they met you.

A person that would be able to do all of those things would be rare in the state. But within 15 miles of Midland???

Thanks for the input; like I said, new and learning.

I'm being careful with numbers out of respect, so half-street for me would be two- five for three point five all the way up.

On the point of having enough for me; he's got the ability for 12 of my babies. Should it be unreasonable to expect up to 3 oz of meds a month? (not free, just available)

Is there something about Midland that I'm unaware of? There's been more caregiver and patient harassment in all other Tri-cities accept Midland. We tend to turn an eye here unless it's in peoples faces.

Edited by BIG C, 06 February 2011 - 04:05 AM.

[BIG C]

Are you saying what I was told was unreasonable, or to expect a caregiver to hold to an agreement unreasonable?

[Brandan]

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[affordablemimeds]

Are you saying what I was told was unreasonable, or to expect a caregiver to hold to an agreement unreasonable?

You should learn something from your fist so called DEAL. Nothing is free. What he is saying is offering your rights to grow 12 plants aint worth 2 cents. The only one to offer you free meds are the ones who are just getting going. Once they get going and they have it in their hand and know what it is worth, its hard to give meds away free. WHEN a caregiver can LEGALY get rid of overages then the growing rights might become valuable. As for 3 oz a month, no problem any caregiver can meet this. I do at 200 for my patients. They never need to look elsewhere either.

[GregS]

This is only the last in a long line of reports of agreements that promise something for nothing gone wrong. PB is right. It is unreasonable to think that this type of arrangement can be manintained. If at all, it would work as the rare exception rather than the rule.

The stuff is a commodity, like it or not. The people involved are not typically wealthy enough to practice philanthropy, except on the receiving end.

[BIG C]

Hello Big,
The reason most of us see this as an "unreasonable request" is because here at the MMMA we don't support dispensaries. The Cg you're using was only giving you meds for the plant count so he could sell overages and make money from dispensaries...

Well many of this sites users refuse to deal with dispensaries. So wile we may have free family members, it's our non-family patients that help cover cost in many cases.

Generally a good CG is going to give you quality meds at a fair price. Many are between $100-$250 to cultivate one ounce of usable medication. Some may be higher, or some lower. But you know as well as I nothing in life comes free.

Many of you don't care about the fight between the out of state dispensaries and our local boys as long as you're the one benefiting......Well...You got what you paid for.

It's Cg's like you're current one were trying to rid the state of....Our law was intended and written with a CG/patient relationship in mind, not a way for dope dealers to be able to open a store front.

Good luck

Thanks to OxXGarfieldXxO and everybody for a little input. Some productive, some jabby, at least there's a response.

Believe it or not, this is a "family Arrangement", that's why I thought I could trust it. If this is entitlement, I'd better never believe anybody again out of fear of entitlement. That's like saying "I'm not entitled to buying a product for a stated price", or "I'm not entitled to being told the truth". If you can't do it, don't say it. I understand that we can't expect everything, but if it's presented as a reasonable statement, I'll take it reasonably. One oz free a month from 12 of my plants yielding at least 1 to 1.5 oz.a piece seems believable; Especially when I'm paying 200 to 300 a piece for more.

As I'm trying to see things from everyone's perspective, I find myself at a loss when I'm lied to and ignored by my "caregiver". That's it and that's all.

To everyone giving it your first shot, just don't work with family. That's what I've learned.

[garyfisher]

hang on a second. Why dont people mind their own business and move along. Quit mucking up this persons thread. He is looking for a compassionate caregiver and I bet he will find one. There are tons of caregivers in the sticks near midland and many looking to pickup patients. Everyone who has something bad to say about what this patient wants, SHUT UP and MOVE ALONG. This thread is obviously not for you. Dont put your negative input here.

[garyfisher]

When you're name is red......You can post where ever you darn well please....kk thx

I wasn't referring to you garfield. Your post was at least informative to the patient. A lot of the other comments were totally unnecessary; this is who I was directing my comment to. Why are people concerned with this patients caregiver criteria? I dont get it.

[BIG C]

Thanks for the support Garey.

Sorry OxXGarfieldXxO, there were so many slaps to my face in your comments, that it was hard to not get sucked into just one. Not sure what response I could give accept


Either way, something will be better than "nothing" and "lies" from a CG

[BIG C]

glad you can relate to the family part though. That's the most BS part about my arrangement

[BIG C]

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