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[Champion Jack Dupree]

Estimated Prophet, on 09 December 2011 - 01:37 PM, said:

I have watched both episodes and I like it so far.
Does not seem to be pushing any particular agenda or trying to exploit the typical stereotypes.
It's actually been a fair representation of our community, both the good and bad.

Agreed a fair look from my view...now if only this can be added to the daily &world news !

[Croppled1]

Medicinal Patient, on 10 December 2011 - 01:49 PM, said:

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I I found your info helpful . I watched the show on Youtube . Afterwards I thought . There is a awful lot of discrimination going on look at their tax issues .I also thought
I too am scared that not one word should be changed in the existing Michigan act . The more I learn I keep thinking we need more protections for patients to access regular medical care and a clearer dispensory law that allowed patients to provide supply from their plant counts and kept felonies from being invoked on qualified patients for minor infractions . Arresting a patient for being confused and not locking the door to their room when in it and the door bell rings is not right . Something has to be done about weight to allow for medable use and reasonable enforcement in relation to non interupted supply when it is aknowledged a ounce a week is reasonable and we know many use more in severe situations which most of us are in .

[David1946]

I just wished they'd named it something else...Yes most of us understand the connotation but the average citizen doesn't.. I'd brought up this program at our group meeting three weeks ago and last night was the first time most of the group watched...'a flood of tears' would be and understatement!

The young lady who is a wheelchair bound MS patient and an admitted conservative who doesn't condone 'drug use' of any kind, is now a MM Patient and staunch defender of Medical Cannabis. Or the Dad, searching for an answer to help his son find relief from the worst form of epilepsy who only after a single treatment with a Tincture he son was seizure free for four days, first time in four years.

The DeAngelo family in my eyes stand next to Jack Herer in educating the world of the miraculous medicinal powers of the simple Cannabis plant...


Paraplegic Muscular Dystrophy Patient Seeks Cannabis to Alleviate Pain on Discovery Channel’s “Weed Wars” Episode 3

http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/524794

Episode 3 of “Weed Wars,” the new Discovery Channel series about Oakland cannabis club Harborside Health Center, will air on Thursday, December 17th at 10 pm. This episode, according to Barborside, includes the moving account of a wheelchair-bound paraplegic patient with muscular dystrophy taking for first dose of medical marijuana to relieve her pain.

Muscular dystrophy is a hereditary condition marked by progressive weakening and wasting of the muscles that gets worse over time. Being religious and conservative, the patient never imagined she would use marijuana. But her prescribed medications ceased to deliver adequate relief, and in desperation, she came to Harborside Health Center for help.

The episode comes on the heels of an article on Time.com by health writer Maia Szalavitz that discusses the results of a new study that indicates patients can safely use cannabis while taking opioid painkillers, and the combination allows them to take fewer pills.

The research results, according to the article, were published in Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics. The study tracked 21 patients living with chronic pain who were taking either long-acting morphine or Oxycontin twice a day. Adding marijuana to these opioid drugs reduced patients' pain by an average of 27%. The inclusion of cannabis also did not significantly affect blood levels of the prescription drugs. If marijuana had raised those blood levels, it could have increased overdose risk.

With rising concerns about opioid overdose—the death toll associated with prescription painkillers has recently surpassed that of traffic accidents—the new findings are striking. While marijuana won’t replace opioids for the most severe pain, cannabis has advantages. For one, people can’t overdose on marijuana. For another, the risk of becoming addicted to the drug are markedly lower than the risk associated with opioid use.

Harborside says further study should be conducted to determine which patients would benefit most, and to what extent marijuana can actually reduce opioid use. Unfortunately, the Obama administration is currently engaged in a crackdown on marijuana dispensaries in the 16 states that have legalized medical use. Harborside believes the money the government is spending on fighting the states could be used on research.

Not just a Bay Area medical marijuana dispensary, Harborside Health Center provides free services such as acupuncture, chiropractic treatments, yoga and counseling as part of Harborside’s holistic approach to patients’ health. Currently, Harborside provides patients approximately 1,820 hours of holistic health services each year—which has an estimated value of $227,500, or 10 percent of the dispensary’s yearly net income.

Harborside assists patients who cannot afford the medicine they need. The Oakland medical cannabis club has donated over $643,000 in free medicine to its qualified low-income members over the past four years through its Care Package program. Harborside also offers weekly seminars to teach patients how to grow their own medicine.

Another way Harborside has helped patients financially is through its Rewards Card program. When the State Board of Equalization ruled in 2006 that dispensaries must pay sales tax, Harborside immediately implemented the program to help mitigate the extra cost the sales tax created.

Harborside believes in supporting the community and helping people stand up for their rights. Over the last four years, the health center has donated over $340,000 to other cannabis-related non-profit organizations and efforts to better the local community. At Harborside’s in-house Patient Activist Resource Center, patients are taught basics of activism and lobbying, and in turn, they receive a free gram of medicine for each hour worked.

These practices have earned Harborside industry-wide accolades and media attention. The New York Times calls Harborside “a model for the medical marijuana industry,” while Fortune Magazine says Harborside is showing “the rest of the nation how such an establishment could provide top-flight patient services, adhere to the letter of the law, and interact with the surrounding community beneficially.”

Discovery Channel’s “Weed Wars” focuses on Oakland’s Harborside Health Center—which has set the gold standard for medicinal cannabis dispensaries in the nation—and the leadership behind Harborside: activist, founder and Executive Director Steve DeAngelo. DeAngelo’s lifelong mission has been to bring the truth about the cannabis plant to the American public.

The show follows the DeAngelo family and Harborside’s staff as they fearlessly wrestle with the complex issues they face every day. The series accurately captures the real-life drama and high stakes of the California-voter-approved business as federal agencies make increasingly harsher threats and IRS audits attempt to shut down the Oakland cannabis dispensary.

In addition to focusing on Steve DeAngelo, his family and the staff, “Weed Wars” follows the journey of the plant itself from seed germination to harvesting. Audiences will meet the growers and “patient farmers” whose job it is to provide the “medicine” that will be eventually purchased and used by thousands of clients, many of whom feel their lives have been forever changed by the plant.

Discovery has announced it will rerun last week’s controversial episode “Federal Crackdown” immediately prior to the new episode.

About Harborside Health Center: Founded by national cannabis leader Steve DeAngelo in 2005, Harborside Health Center is the not-for-profit model medical cannabis dispensary in the country. The Oakland holistic healing center and medical marijuana collective offers its 94,000 registered patients free holistic health services, lab-tested medicine and education.

“Out of the shadows and in to the light” epitomizes DeAngelo’s mission to enlighten the public on the many medicinal and therapeutic benefits of the plant. DeAngelo is recognized as a national leader and strategist of the cannabis reform movement. He speaks and writes widely on the subject. Harborside and DeAngelo are featured on “Weed Wars,” now airing on The Discovery Channel.

For more information about Harborside Health Center, call (510) 533-0146 or visit harborsidehealthcenter.com.

For more information about “Weed Wars” or the information in this release, contact Gaynell Rogers at (415) 298-1114 or Linda Stokely at (707) 981-4407.

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Read the full story at http://www.prweb.com/releases/-medical-marijuana-/-oakland-weed-wars-/prweb9044866.htm



Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/524794#ixzz1ghDQBO6a

[whacked]

"half my team will be baked on edibles by the third inning" cracked me up!!!

[TheBeagle]

poor stevie!I hope he can kick it!

Edited by TheBeagle, 16 December 2011 - 02:14 PM.

[MaxxPot]

If you were able to pause the show at the point where steves brother read the bad customer review, you would have seen the guy complain about Harborside charging 65 an 1/8th for cannabis that wasnt even top shelp meds. When tallied this amounts to almost 8500% per lb. When lil Stevie was caught with his hand in the cookie jar he had written the receipt for $3k. which tells me thats an avg price pd for a lb of herb by Harborside. So what im tryin to figure out is how those guys can say they are a "not for profit" but charging patients 3x's what they are paying for the meds...isnt that the same thing dealers do? ThEy want to cry "not for profit" to take advantage of the tax breaks but want to charge patients and make money like they were a for profit business, cant have it both ways fellas.

[Morhawk]

MaxxPot, on 18 December 2011 - 09:22 AM, said:

If you were able to pause the show at the point where steves brother read the bad customer review, you would have seen the guy complain about Harborside charging 65 an 1/8th for cannabis that wasnt even top shelp meds. When tallied this amounts to almost 8500% per lb. When lil Stevie was caught with his hand in the cookie jar he had written the receipt for $3k. which tells me thats an avg price pd for a lb of herb by Harborside. So what im tryin to figure out is how those guys can say they are a "not for profit" but charging patients 3x's what they are paying for the meds...isnt that the same thing dealers do? ThEy want to cry "not for profit" to take advantage of the tax breaks but want to charge patients and make money like they were a for profit business, cant have it both ways fellas.

You still have to pay employees, rent, electric, and they also had onsite massage/chiropractic services (among other things I would assume) that were paid for out of the "profit." And of course the owners are making some money. Go ahead and find me a non-profit where no one makes money. Quite a few only actually use 10% of what you donate to go towards what you actually are donating for. 90% goes for expenses and salaries. Which is why I only usually donate hard goods. Go ahead and take 90% of that sweater or can of corn. lol

[MaxxPot]

Morhawk, on 18 December 2011 - 09:32 AM, said:

You still have to pay employees, rent, electric, and they also had onsite massage/chiropractic services (among other things I would assume) that were paid for out of the "profit." And of course the owners are making some money. Go ahead and find me a non-profit where no one makes money. Quite a few only actually use 10% of what you donate to go towards what you actually are donating for. 90% goes for expenses and salaries. Which is why I only usually donate hard goods. Go ahead and take 90% of that sweater or can of corn. lol

They admitted to making over 23 million in one year. If their mark-up of all retail products (bud, oils, hash etc)are at about the same level as the markup on the lb i was speaking of then that would mean that they spent a little less than $8mil or so on retail products which leaves a lil less than $16mil to pay for payroll, rent, electricity etc. Yeah, $16mil takes care of those expenses for a cple yrs im sure.
There is no way anyone would ever get me to believe that they arent raping their "patients" and makin money hand over fist. And as far as other "not for profits"...they arent my concern. They arent trying to get the mainstream to see this is supposed to be about patients having access to quality meds at a reasonable price, not about making millions while at the same time tryin to cry you have no $....its just BS. Why is that P2P transactions go for 200 an oz in most cases ive sen but Harborside can get away with charging up to 520$ an oz and people go to bat for em. Unreal.

Edited by MaxxPot, 18 December 2011 - 11:09 AM.

[Morhawk]

MaxxPot, on 18 December 2011 - 11:08 AM, said:

Why is that P2P transactions go for 200 an oz in most cases ive sen but Harborside can get away with charging up to 520$ an oz and people go to bat for em. Unreal.

They can "get away" with it because the patients buy it. They could charge $800 for a gram if they wanted, but I bet the clientele would drop to zero.

And if you recall they are going/gone? through an audit. I am sure if they are skimming more than they are allowed to as a non-profit, it will show and they will be punished accordingly. And I am sure the IRS/FED have been looking for every and any reason to knock them down, I am sure they looked into that fairly hardcore. Many CEO's for non-profits get quite wealthy from the "non-profit." I am sure the same goes for Harborside, but I wouldn't hold them to a higher standard than any other non-profit. I'm with you, I don't think it's right that this could happen, but to fix it we just have to vote for Reps that agree with us and do something to change it. Until then...

[free country 420]

there are a lot of other expenses that you are over looking... marketing,all the thc testing and quality screening, all the bills associated with making edibles and tinctures, the lobbing that this guy does for the medical community... im sure it all adds up, plus they are all getting paid.... o yea plus the security and all the high tec locked doors and stuff... i mean they all make money for their time involved

[David1946]

TheBeagle, on 16 December 2011 - 02:14 PM, said:

poor stevie!I hope he can kick it!

Worst 100 hundred hours of my life was spent withdrawing from opiates....

[TheBeagle]

what happend to weed wars? is it like not on anymore?

[Q-tipper]

TheBeagle, on 06 January 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

what happend to weed wars? is it like not on anymore?

i think there is a lawsuit against discovery over the idea of the show from some women, read about it the other day.

[TheBeagle]

figures some stupidass needs to flower it over

[Frank R]

Weed Wars had its season finale, perhaps it will be back....


Discovery's 'Weed Wars' Sparks Lawsuit THR

Discovery Communications has been hit with a lawsuit stemming from its medical marijuana series "Weed Wars," according to The Hollywood Reporter's Hollywood, Esq. blog.

Kylie Krabbe claims the media company stole her idea for a reality show focused on a medical marijuana dispensary, the story says. She alleges she won the right to pitch it to Discovery executives after taking it to an organized pitch session in 2010, the article adds.

She called the show "Greener Pastures," and it focused on the owner of a dispensary in Santa Barbara, the story says. She registered the treatment with the WGA before pitching it, the piece adds.

The suit alleges that Discovery initially was interested but then passed, calling it too "edgy," the story says.

"Weed Wars" debuted Dec. 1 on Discovery.

Discovery doesn't comment on pending litigation, the piece adds.

[Phil78]

while they are all doing well (look at their cars), you have to keep in mind it is a not-for-profit organization. meaning, any profit (after paying bills, employees, owners) has to be put back into helping the community. that is the problem with having to pay all that tax at once. they weren't saying they wouldn't be able to pay the tax, it was the fact that they did not withhold the money necessary to pay the tax bill, before spending it on the community.

they had had the money, but spent it, as they were supposed to according to the type of business they are. now that they know, it shouldn't be an issue, if they are able to get past this surprise that it WAS retro-active (and i'm not going to get into whether they knew about it and were trying to scam by, or not; i don't believe that the case, though).

i felt it was a good show, it humanizes people that use mmj and shows they are normal people, too, to those who don't. (you have to keep in mind, the clientele in their show is normal for that area; might not be in your hometown, but there, probably almost conservative, relatively speaking)