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[michmed]

Spyder autoflower is available at Attitude Seeds
https://www.cannabis.../prod_3660.html

[GanjaWarrior]

so is this a add for one of those crappy auto flowers?

if your doing a journal cool im subbed...or u just hopped on to spamm some weak add for some crappy strain?

[abe supercro]

there is a niche for auto flowers, or they wouldn't be gaining in popularity. you can't really compare auto flowers to regular, but people still try because they figure one style is waaaaay better. apple to oranges

asking myself, why do people grow autoflowers?

[ilynnboy]

Why autoflowerers?
Only need one room, no seperate veg/ bloom rooms or clone rooting area.
Only need one light, one timer, one nutrient bottle.
There are a lot of reasons for growing auto's.
There are also a lot of negatives as well.
Low yield, inconsistent autoflowering, inability to clone so you must start with seed.
The genetic variability of Seeds means that you can find a Keeper. However the inability to clone stops you from keeping a Keeper though, that sucks.
Can you imagine continual outdoor harvest?
Plant Seeds every week, harvest every week...NICE
Going to try them, as they are continually being improved.
Maybe someday I will make my own Auto- C99.
That would be Awesome.

Dr Greenthumb has the Iranian auto in seed form.
As far as I know it is the Only Cloneable Auto.

Edited by ilynnboy, 14 October 2012 - 09:00 AM.

[michmed]

Well hello to you too ganjawarrior, you sure have a pleasant demeanor. Yet another person spewing ignorance about autoflowers. These are from a michigan breeder, I thought it was pretty cool.

[mrd]

Why autoflowerers?
Only need one room, no seperate veg/ bloom rooms or clone rooting area.
Only need one light, one timer, one nutrient bottle.
There are a lot of reasons for growing auto's.
There are also a lot of negatives as well.
Low yield, inconsistent autoflowering, inability to clone so you must start with seed.
The genetic variability of Seeds means that you can find a Keeper. However the inability to clone stops you from keeping a Keeper though, that sucks.
Can you imagine continual outdoor harvest?
Plant Seeds every week, harvest every week...NICE
Going to try them, as they are continually being improved.
Maybe someday I will make my own Auto- C99.
That would be Awesome.

Dr Greenthumb has the Iranian auto in seed form.
As far as I know it is the Only Cloneable Auto.

Although I could be wrong I suspect some of the things above are no longer true.

Catch the autoflower issue of Skunk mag. SeemoreBuds (sounds like an old porno movie name) grew under two leds in dwc which he supposedly is a master of grew one autoflower from dutch passion that yielded 356 gm dry in approx 75 days. He grew their mazzar for a 350 gm yield. Just shy of 12 oz. He grew it from seed in the same container. The reason you should plant the thing in the container you intend to finish in is due to the fact that the plant is on a fixed schedual and loosing any growth due to potential transplant shock makes for a smaller plant.

A total newbie grew a Think Different in soil with an airpot under a 250 watt dual arc bulb ( never heard of one that small but whatever it was HID) he got a little over 6 oz. These are plants that are waist high. I am currently starting up one and intend to use a different one to reverse sex of in order to try to create seed with good autoflower potential. I heard with autflowers breeding is picking out the best plants of a given generation because you cannot keep a mother plant. So I certainly agree with most of what you said in terms of wishful thinking.

It is claimed the effects of these new autoflowers is similar to the usual photoperiod plants but I have not ate that pudding yet! Will let you know. I am growing in dirt. The plant will go under a 600 or 1k lamp.

[Gangie]

I've recently started Using Auto's,......Dont Knock it unless you've tried it....Thats all i'm saing

[robert75]

and to the guy that says u cant clone auto's.....u must not no what yur doin bro....it is difficult to clone them,but not inpossible.....u have to trick the plant....alot of different combinations with the light.....far as hrs on and hrs off......and they will clone....maybe i should write a book on cloning autoflowers......

[ilynnboy]

Okay Robert if you're in the know let us know. I have a mossy's jem I would like to clone.
A pink and purple auto flowering diesel.
Don't be stingy with your knowledge, share I'm always willing to learn.
And No I do not know everything!
Do you?

I have been growing on and off since 1984..
Lots of experience, but be sure I do not think I know it all. Thanks for the well founded comments.

Edited by ilynnboy, 01 December 2012 - 08:22 PM.

[abe supercro]

I have one Spyder I'm flowering in the veg rm now. I will mention that the bud is rather rose/purple color, just like the pic seen at the tude site. Good point Ilynn,

Edited by abe supercro, 02 December 2012 - 08:47 AM.

[peanutbutter]

sold out ..

[abe supercro]

seen them restock it a few times already so I bet it'll be back again soon. What's cool and kinda surprised me about autos is that you def. know which is male or female within weeks. I only germed two, and since they are hard to get cuttings from (and not cheap) I F2'ed the pair. Also pollenated the female Spyder with Ziggy's-brand auto too.

[cristinew]

Yes its easy to make you own seeds with Autos,, but i like a true landrace ,,

[abe supercro]

you're comparing autos to unnamed landrace strains, lol. it's no easier to make your own seeds with autos than any other plant, it may happen quicker is about it. It ok christi, we can learn together. this is an auto thread.

[ilynnboy]

Yes indeed autoflowerers have came a long way.
There are a couple of Sativa dominant ones I would like to try.
Nirvana Sky and Super Cali-Haze.
Supposed to be Super Auto's. Bigger plants / higher yield.

[GanjaWarrior]

i agree this is an auto thread and it should stay on topic.... im very interested just as soon as one of you guys grows out an auto that A. i can even feel the effects.... and B. irt last longer than 15 min. Now im not flaming im serious as hell....does this auto flower exist? I cant tell you the science behind it but ive smoked 15 plus af....and none have had an effect on me longer than 1015 min?

and Robert where is yous secret info? I have a close friend that grows nothing but autos...hes said your full of it, but is dieing to know your secret....

[cristinew]

I agree GW still waiting for one to last more the15 minutes, ,, easy to breed you get your male pollen very fast,,, but are they really worth the time and space..

the science behind it is ruderalis

[abe supercro]

Yes indeed autoflowerers have came a long way.
There are a couple of Sativa dominant ones I would like to try.
Nirvana Sky and Super Cali-Haze.
Supposed to be Super Auto's. Bigger plants / higher yield.

Yeah the hybridized super-autos may end up being the only way to go for potency and yield. thanx for tip on a few good ones. reg autos may have a niche. not light cycle dependent, you can flower them right out of the gate as soon as spring hits. they are compact, they are stealth. from a distance they may look like just lil clump or a turtle, but up close we see it's a rabbit. in the right garden, i'd hop my auto would last 45 minutes.

[Bison]

From seed pop to harvest 75 days and 12 oz yield, and with leds? I'm skeptical...

[Indica Jones]

You'll find the breeder of the Spyder at G3C in Flint. Black Creek Garden seeds