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#21 SFC

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:10 AM

Yes, Thank you Highlander for keeping it real.

#22 phaquetoo

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

The plants I gave the rights to my c.g are his, if I leave him or he dont want to be my c.g they are his plants and I would jsut start my own when my pt card says I can posses, I dont think it woul realy be a big deal, ive switched c.g's I had a horrible 1st one, done bye, I signed another, when I became my ladys c.g the first thing he asked me is if I wanted my plant #'s back, I said not realy I think im gonna need your help for a while, and I did need his help, still do, but if he wants to give me my rights back I will take them back and grow my own, Im growing for 1 pt now, I wouldnt even have to add to the count, but id have to get better, mainly adjust my room, im one of them guys who tryed to go cheap, cheap is over, tents are getting cleaned and put away and the area I was using is gonna grow to triple but not have any more plants added to it, I just need to tweak it hard this time lol!

there are alot of great c.g's around now, I was one of the first people to bad mouth c.g's a few yrs ago, but onece i found the right one the whinning stop, Im happy with my home situation and my c.gs situation between me and him, it is none of my biz what he does with his other pts, I dont knw them nor do I want to,,,gotta go, I just ran a case of butane for some sweet honey oil!

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#23 rindalorinda

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:39 PM

There is no such thing as free meds. There are no, repeat NO growers in Michigan getting free electricity, nutrients, etc. So if the grower can't grow for free, how on earth can he/she supply meds at no cost?? There is only one way. The grower sells meds to the black market and drags you along for the ride as an accomplice or an accessory to a crime. Who wants that ??? - "wink wink...I know you're growing MY 12 plants, and I know you're selling your overages illegally...so hows about you cut me in and give me meds for free???" Do that and you might as well drive the getaway car for the bank robbers with the pre-canned story, " I thought they were going into Subway."

I would like to believe that there is an abundance of growers who give their product away for free simply because they can. But practical outcomes tell us different. Once the newbie grower realizes his schutff is worth $5 to $10/gram, he suddenly has a hard time giving it away for free.

Sorry - no such thing as a free lunch. Best to learn to make your own lunch in the end.

I guess I'm fed up with people asking for meds for free.

The other argument is "oh, well ,maybe the CG can't provide for his current patients with the 60 plants he can already possess, so if I 'give' him my 12, he can provide better for his current patients and give the extra away to me for free."

Newsflash: If your CG can't take care of patients with 12 plants each.....if he needs some of "YOUR" 12 plants to fill in the gap, then it is time to find a new caregiver.






Thank you! Nothing in life is free and growing is a very expensive process for the CG. I wish pateints would understand this.

#24 neenee711

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 01:02 PM

Ok , I have a new question. Say I pick a new caregiver, they start my plants/meds and by the time they are ready I can not afford to buy anything? do they keep growing those plants, do they transfer those plants to new patient? just how does that work?

#25 Highlander

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

Ok , I have a new question. Say I pick a new caregiver, they start my plants/meds and by the time they are ready I can not afford to buy anything? do they keep growing those plants, do they transfer those plants to new patient? just how does that work?


Try not to think of it like "These 12 plants belong to patient A" These belong to patient B" etc. I don't know anybody who grows, or needs to grow 72 plants. So let's say a CG has 3 patients and is also a patient himself. He can have 48 plants. He might only have 32 going at any given time. So you sign up with him and as soon as you're legal, you should be able to get meds.

You should have no problem finding a CG who already has a mature grow. Gone are the days when a CG signs up a patient and then starts 12 plants and 4 months later the patient has meds. Don't take this type of deal.

But back to the actual question you answered. Many CGs, and most that I know, would never ever tell you "sorry - no money - no meds." They would try to cover you if you're in a financial low. Maybe offer to let you help out some other way....let you get back on your feet. But ask any prospective CG your question. I had a prospective patient ask me the same thing. My answer "If you fall on hard times, I will supply meds for free for awhile...how long a while? I dunno....until it doesn't feel like a good idea anymore."

There is a sweet spot when it comes to compensation. If the patient pays 'enough' then the CG doesn't mind bending a bit when he has to.....and likewise, if the CG charges 'not too much' then a smart patient won't con the CG into free meds, because he doesn't want to have to find a new CG and pay higher prices.

One thing people never talk about is the CG pricing his service such that his patients won't abuse him and therefore have to find another patient. For example, if a CG charges $5/gram for meds, what patient would want to start screwing around and mess that up?

That's what you need to find for yourself. Good luck

#26 phaquetoo

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

5 bucks a grm way to much NOT!

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#27 neenee711

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:11 AM

TY Highlander this makes sense to me. So I am truly looking for a local caregiver in the Reed City/Hersey/Evart area as I am filling out my state caregiver form as we speak, I was going to put myself for now even though I do not grow anything. My old caregiver gave me 30 days to remove her name. If someone needs a new patient I will be a good patient and not ask for the impossible, but only to work with me as best they can. I have been without meds for over a month now and am truly in a lot of pain, I can't seem to stop crying and wishing things could b different. but i am going to look at the positive things in my life and keep on keeping on :) :) or was it keep in trucking? old 70's saying? ok thanks again for everyone's help.
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