Cannabis Cures Cancer

[mibrains]

I think what she had is considered worse than blasto .. The form she was dealing with infiltrates large areas of the brain before it's even noticed. It invades the brain matter in cobweb like structures. There isn't a isolated tumor to take out.

 

Just plain inoperable.

 

my dads was gleoblastoma multiform stage 4

 

there are "tentacles" that grow away from the tumor and infiltrate the brain.

 

it was terminal.

 

there was no way to remove all the tentacles so it eventually overcame him.

 

i heard her tentacles were "crystallized" somehow or something like that and then it allowed them to remove the main mass without leaving behind any broken cells..

 

i am looking forward to seeing more test data on her...

 

hopefully there will be some published articles that come out..

[mibrains]

Thank you John

 

 

your welcome.

 

it is the least i could do.

[cristinew]

does she take Marinoil ,, people on that seem to get less from the real stuff,

[muckaluckaroo]

pb is certainly entitled to his own opinion. and if he thinks false hope is better than no hope at all, he certainly wouldn't be the first. magical thinking is a potent tonic against the harshness of reality. who hasn't defaulted into magical thinking when considering our undeniable mortality?

 

yes, pd is certainly entitled to his own opinion. after all, he owns it. but, he does not own the facts in this matter. the statement, "marijuana cures cancer" is a misrepresentation of fact and is irresponsible and potentially harmful. first, do no harm. why should a patient adhere to a difficult treatment regimen when "marijuana cures cancer?" why not latch on to the easy miracle cure and chuck the difficult medical practices offered by science?

 

commence back paddling.

[muckaluckaroo]

sorry, not done yet.

 

offering comfort to the sick is a beautiful thing. reduced nausea, reduced anxiety, and more peaceful sleep are gifts to the sick. snake oil cure claims for cancer are false comfort and sure to cause more anxiety for the patient and their family.

 

jeebus, i hate bs.

 

btw, good read:

 

http://www.amazon.co...rds=on+moo poo

[peanutbutter]

Please read and share. We will be hearing the people involved in this story tell it first hand at the Cannabis Oil Cures Cancer Show on March 1st at the Ritz in Warren, Michigan. One week from today!

 

From The Erwins

 

"Our journey started in January of 2011 with Alysa complaining of having severe headaches. This went on for several weeks and numerous visits to our family doctors, eye doctors and orthodontist, still with no answers. In the meantime she was taking Motrin, Tylenol and other over the counter medications which were not helping. One of her family doctors found out by running blood test showing that she had Hashimotto's which is a Thyroid Disease and the other doctor said she thinks she's being a hypochondriac.

On March 22nd 2011, Alysa woke up that morning to get ready for school crying in so much pain with feeling nauseated and dizziness. So my wife took her to the emergency room and Demanded a MRI. The emergency room doctor said that its protocol to have a CT scan first and if there are any findings they can authorize an MRI, due to the cost. He said that we would be there all day. While waiting for the technicians they drew her blood and administered pain medication. Technicians showed up and took her to CT. Twenty to Thirty minutes had past and the doctor came back in and said they found some abnormities and received authorization for the MRI. The MRI took about an hour and while waiting for the results in walked the emergency doctor, Alysa's family doctor, a neurologist, and two nurses. Both scans showed brain swelling and a mass. So they started her immediately on a high-dose of steroids to relieve the swelling and her pain . They couldn't really tell us anything else other than she needs to be seen by the Pediatric Neurology/Neurosurgery Clinic at the University of Michigan's Motts Children Hospital to further her care. March 24th - 2 days later, Alysa was being seen by two specialists. They scheduled a MRI and the scan findings were diffuse and nonspecific appearing. They discontinued her steroids at the time with a plan to repeat another MRI in four weeks.

 

 

More here: https://www.facebook.com/PeanutButtersOil/posts/537222769643852

 

Now if cannabis does indeed cure cancer, keeping that information from the people of this state is a crime against humanity.

[muckaluckaroo]

well then, one person experiences remission, so marijuana really is a miracle cure for cancer. jeebus, pb, your advocacy is profoundly irresponsible.

 

i have a copy of "on moo poo" by harry g. frankfurt available for loan if you are interested. at least, read the introduction from the link, above.

 

not to change the subject, but does anyone else think we don't teach enough critical thinking and science in our schools?

 

(thanks moderator for fixing my link.)

Edited February 26, 2013 by muckaluckaroo

[Restorium2]

well then, one person experiences remission, so marijuana really is a miracle cure for cancer. jeebus, pb, your advocacy is profoundly irresponsible.

 

i have a copy of "on moo poo" by harry g. frankfurt available for loan if you are interested. at least, read the introduction from the link, above.

 

not to change the subject, but does anyone else think we don't teach enough critical thinking and science in our schools?

 

(thanks moderator for fixing my link.)

You can't teach it to the general population because it takes a natural knack. Some of us are born to sort out the BS using what we know as fact. The world can seem totally full of BS to us. We probably seem cold and calculating to those that don't share the natural tendancy. Keep up the good work. Without us the world would be much fuller with doo doo. lol

[Highlander]

Along those same lines if we assume that the oil cured the cancer then we also must assume that if the cancer spreads it was because of the oil. I have seen cannabis oil help a few cancer patients. It helps a lot with sleep and appetite, which can't help but give the patient a better shot at winning. I had a patient who was nearly dead. He started taking the oil and had three pretty good months and then a bad one before he died. Even that last month of his life he was better off that the month before taking the oil.

 

There is no need to stretch a few isolated cases of a "cure" or remission. When the non MMJ public sees this discussion about cannabis curing cancer, we lose credibility. No need to make exaggerated claims when there is plenty of evidence to support cannabis use to help cancer patients. The public is already supportive of this.

Edited February 26, 2013 by Highlander

[jointedone]

.....and no answer to my question, just go off on another subject. Sounds like a politician. And just what I expected.

[Restorium2]

Is the Oil safe for patients with no immune system left?Does the pt have to quit taking traditional RXs while being treated? How long is the treatment,weeks,months,or does it depend on what kind of Cancer and what stage it is? I am asking questions,not bring a smartass. I want to know more about it.

Yes, cannabis oil is safe for compromised imune systems. I use it with an imune suppressant drug. Always start with a tiny dose of PURE CANNABIS OIL MIXED WITH NOTHING. Work your way up to a dosage that feels right to you.

Edited February 26, 2013 by Restorium2

[Highlander]

Jointed I hope you get the help you need but take note that you posted an off topic question and seem upset you had to read my response to the topic at hand. No worries though. Sounds like you got your answer.

[peanutbutter]

not to change the subject, but does anyone else think we don't teach enough critical thinking and science in our schools?

 

VERY GOOD IDEA!!

 

When do you expect to start the double blind testing?

 

FYI .. critical thinking applied to medicine testing, in this context, if a federal felony. No problem for you, I'm sure.

Edited February 26, 2013 by peanutbutter

[GregS]

well then, one person experiences remission, so marijuana really is a miracle cure for cancer. jeebus, pb, your advocacy is profoundly irresponsible.

 

i have a copy of "on moo poo" by harry g. frankfurt available for loan if you are interested. at least, read the introduction from the link, above.

 

not to change the subject, but does anyone else think we don't teach enough critical thinking and science in our schools?

 

(thanks moderator for fixing my link.)

 

Critical thinking and science? You are verry new here.

[Wild Bill]

GrowGoddess,

 

Since you are starting with a new patient maybe you can find a medical professional who could help you to set up a controlled study so you would have something other than anecdotal evidence.

 

Until these claims can be supported by scientific method they will not, nor should they, accepted by the medical community as fact.

The government has stifled research for years and dismissed any results as inconclusive.

 

Since we are now semi protected by our medical law in Michigan hopefully it will become easier to find qualified people who are not afraid of government sanctions to do some real research and find out what this amazing plant is capable oKeep up the good work!

[GregS]

How about it Dr.Bob? How much is involved in performing clinical research with cannabis? Maybe that is something the MMMA would do well to accomplish.

Edited February 26, 2013 by GregS

[CaveatLector]

How about it Dr.Bob? How much is involved in performing clinical research with cannabis? Maybe that is something the MMMA would do well to accomplish.

Dr Bob is a good place to start when asking that question but I think most such research is conducted by scientists holding PhDs in biochem, etc.

 

Wild Bill's suggestion is a good idea. Would be nice if there were some collaboration between some here whom would like to help with this and maybe some scientists willing to do the research design, etc. I think the biggest problem is overcoming federal hurdles. Of course conforming with the standard of care in regard to treatment can be an issue as well. Most clinical trials (if not all) tend to be offered to patients for whom accepted treatments have not worked. So they are last ditch efforts. I would think that medical ethics would require that traditional treatments be utilized first before a clinical trial of an unproven medicine.

[MightyMightyMezz]

I guess I live in Bizarro World where there is scientific evidence to support this statement.

 

Edited February 26, 2013 by MightyMightyMezz

[peanutbutter]

Oh well .. another one:

 

It's a monumental day in Yellandville. I saw my primary G.P. this morning. He was a doctor who was dead set against cannabis use on any level. A few months ago he covered his ears, saying "La, la, la ,la ,la", when I tried to tell him I was using cannabis oil to fight my cancer. Today, as the doctor who has seen his terminal patient emerge cancer free after using Cannabis Oil, he has down a 180 turn and has been researching the heck out of Cannabanoids and disease conditions. We talked for 30 minutes or so. discussing the endocannabanoid system, how pharmaceuticals are killing people everyday, to the ludicrousy of making drugs like Sativex when one can take it in a plant form without chemical involvement. He spoke of he and my surgeon ahad been at a medical convention. How they were telling their colleagues about me, about Cannabanoids! He said they were spurned by many, but that there were also doctors who paused, listened and that one could see their wheels turning. Never in a million years, did I think my doctor would EVER come around to this! Yes, one person CAN make a difference! Get the word out Peeps. CANNABIS KILLS CANCER. One Love.

 

You could try asking her questions here: https://www.facebook.com/corrie.yelland

[CaveatLector]

I guess I live in Bizarro World where there is scientific evidence to support this statement.

Maybe.

 

Does this bizarro world of yours have any studies you could link to that could shed some light on this?

[peanutbutter]

You see .. we don't tell people to avoid their doctors.

 

We want the doctors to see it for themselves.

[CaveatLector]

Oh well .. another one:

 

 

 

You could try asking her questions here: https://www.facebook.../corrie.yelland

Interesting story. I wonder who sees, or consults, their GP for cancer treatment though. That's an odd statement in and of itself. I wonder why there was no mention about the oncologist. I've never heard of a GP treating cancer. Also interesting is the fact that the GP was at a medical "convention" with a surgeon. I would think that typically these conventions are typically practice targeted. They aren't comic-con.

[MightyMightyMezz]

Maybe.

 

Does this bizarro world of yours have any studies you could link to that could shed some light on this?

 

Nnnnghhh...You no have look yet?

 

[CaveatLector]

You see .. we don't tell people to avoid their doctors.

 

We want the doctors to see it for themselves.

You don't need to tell people to avoid doctors when you feed them a story that the cannabis is "curing" their cancer. Then you ask them why they would take that "pharma poison." What you don't tell them is that even if the cannabis did work to shrink a particular tumor it doesn't mean it destroyed metastatic disease. So that means the cancer could still be floating around in their bodies and end up grabbing hold in their liver, bones, lungs, etc. Furthermore, even if cannabis works for one cancer doesn't mean it works for another. Chemo drugs are generally cancer specifically targeted. They don't work on ALL cancers they work on specific cancers depending on the chemo drug. Suggesting that cannabis should be used to cure ALL cancer is reckless. It is also reckless to suggest that just because a tumor shrinks then a person becomes "cancer free." There is a reason why a surgeon will take out some tumors and patients STILL undergo chemo. It is because studies show that there can be metastatic disease and studies further show that survival rates are significantly increased when you do surgery PLUS chemo.

 

You don't understand the larger picture in regard to cancer treatment which is why you are so dangerous.

[MightyMightyMezz]

 

How much Chemo increase five-year survive?

Edited February 26, 2013 by MightyMightyMezz