Do You Think Cops Are Trying To Ensnare People On This Forum?

[bobandtorey]

Pure Entertainment   LOL   

[trichcycler]

are you drinking?

 

perplexing, I know, let me try it this way;

 

People I know with cards are not invited into my registry. People without cards are not allowed to register me as their caregiver.

 I only interview and register my five patients if carded, all of which have located me on forums just like this one.

I never advertised caregiving, or overages, or anything on craigslist.

I resent your accusation that its about the money.

I never accepted a donation of more than 225 for an ounce, and it always came 7grams heavy, I gift all of my overages to my five patients, when available.

As I am posting, I am registered here. patients have interviewed me for consideration from this site.

I do not provide meds for any but my five patients, short of joints around the campfire.

 

 

got comprehension ?

 

Are you allergic to legal cardholders?  or registered to this website?  

 

"Time to Move On"      And Leave Us with This Mess?

 

Should of figured it was for the $$$$

 

You make me feel so cheap.

 

 

Craigslist?. Online??...no way    Good Meds dont need advertising...it is a trap

 

To the OP

 

No I believe leo frequents theses haunts for the same reason everyone else does...Pure Entertainment   

Edited November 25, 2013 by grassmatch

[GregS]

"i hope everyone can be nicer to new patients.

i'm not asking anyone to do anything illegal or any act they are not comfortable with doing. just try not to call people liars and narcs on their first posts maybe?

 

 

they dont know the rules. they dont know all of the cases. they dont know about bob . they dont know about oakland county. they dont know sen rick jones and AG bill schuette. they dont know about king/kolanek. mcqueen. carruthers. bylsma. ter beek."

 

This website is the number one return when we google "Michigan medical marijuana." People come here because it is the go to site for people new to the law, for whatever reason. That law enforcement may listen in cannot be disregarded. Attorneys play their cards close to the vest, being reluctant to say much of anything that is definitive because of the nature of their business. There are absolutely no guarantees in a courtroom. It is here where we look at the issues together to try to come to an understanding, both individually and communally. Some venom is to be expected. I mean, have you seen the idiots out there who will make drama out of anything they can find? Sure it is possible and even likely that the law watches this. Let them look. There are charming, intelligent, witty, and good lookin' folks here, and we ain't bashful.

Edited November 25, 2013 by GregS

[bobandtorey]

The sad part is that when they do find this site most of the time it's to late to save them and Leo has already been to their Home

[zachw]

On the positive side, it's indeed possible that some law enforcement folks peruse the posts, and think - ya' know (I, my mom, my spouse, my kid, my friend) suffers from X and it looks like there just MAY be some real benefits to this stuff...

[trichcycler]

oh now, c'mon, it aint like that. LEO  only knows of a small fraction of growers, until somehow they know more.

The sad part is that when they do find this site most of the time it's to late to save them and Leo has already been to their Home

[trichcycler]

I wonder how many are card carrying ?

On the positive side, it's indeed possible that some law enforcement folks peruse the posts, and think - ya' know (I, my mom, my spouse, my kid, my friend) suffers from X and it looks like there just MAY be some real benefits to this stuff...

[abe supercro]

I recal last year (err was it the year before) a poster lost his law enforcement job due to his superiors discovering he had a medical card. there are plenty of leo w cards and that segment is more worried than all non-leo. lol.

Edited November 26, 2013 by abe supercro

[trix]

g) It shall be unlawful for any person—

 

(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802))

to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce."

 

Seems to be a problem for medical marijuana users who want a CCW permit, too.

In order to legally possess marijuana for medical purposes, the user must obtain a special registration card for qualified patients, diagnosed by a physician with a debilitating medical condition. Thus, possession of such a registration card would preclude officers from possessing a firearm.  I think

 

(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802))

 

#1 the State of Michigan says I'm not a unlawful user of MM  once they cashed that check.

 

#2 who says just because someone possesses a MM card they are addicted to drugs or any controlled substances?

 

In the case of many their not addicted their dependent on those substances.. where does the dependance start..

 

Only way I see the FF law being broken is by possessing growing plants and a firearm. cop or not just don't have a gun and plants.

 

 

[AmishRnot4ganja]

 

(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802))

 

#1 the State of Michigan says I'm not a unlawful user of MM  once they cashed that check.

 

#2 who says just because someone possesses a MM card they are addicted to drugs or any controlled substances?

 

In the case of many their not addicted their dependent on those substances.. where does the dependance start..

 

Only way I see the FF law being broken is by possessing growing plants and a firearm. cop or not just don't have a gun and plants.

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised to find that some of the leaders of the NRA are addicted to a controlled substance - I.e. pain pills.

[trichcycler]

 

(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802))

 

#1 the State of Michigan says I'm not a unlawful user of MM  once they cashed that check. A cashed check does not denote an accepted application

 

#2 who says just because someone possesses a MM card they are addicted to drugs or any controlled substances? Unlawful user is defined by section 102, not by the state, in federal matters

 

In the case of many their not addicted their dependent on those substances.. where does the dependance start..  "Use" covers that

 

Only way I see the FF law being broken is by possessing growing plants and a firearm. cop or not just don't have a gun and plants.

 

 

 

I don't like it either, but I do see the feds statement clearly, especially after legal advice was sought on this matter.

[trix]

I wouldn't be surprised to find that some of the leaders of the NRA are addicted to a controlled substance - I.e. pain pills.

Addicted or Dependent?

 

I had a disagreement with family about what the difference was..

 

I know of atleast 2 NRA cert. instructors that take controlled substances daily.. every 4 hours.. as needed for pain..

[trichcycler]

................   Good Meds dont need advertising...it is a trap

My services are advertised, not my good meds. I can grow when others choose not to. Only a few people in my life know what I do.

if you're a caregiver counting on "word of mouth" in this craft to help pay your garden costs, or sell your overages,you are in for a big surprise. "Word of Mouth" is exactly what responsible caregivers and patients try to avoid. My patients don't know each other, or me, before they locate me online. I assure you, there is no trap, and your paranoia is understandable, with the whole word of mouth approach you take.

 

There are no "traps" except for growers not following laws. It takes non compliancy to be "trapped" sir. Nobody rides you unless you're bent over. Stand up straight and represent well. Cops are not luring law abiding caregivers into breaking laws.

 

grow safe

[trichcycler]

I am dependent on food and addicted to growing to growing it.

Addicted or Dependent?

I had a disagreement with family about what the difference was..

I know of atleast 2 NRA cert. instructors that take controlled substances daily.. every 4 hours.. as needed for pain..

[beourbud]

My services are advertised, not my good meds. I can grow when others choose not to. Only a few people in my life know what I do.

if you're a caregiver counting on "word of mouth" in this craft to help pay your garden costs, or sell your overages,you are in for a big surprise. "Word of Mouth" is exactly what responsible caregivers and patients try to avoid. My patients don't know each other, or me, before they locate me online. I assure you, there is no trap, and your paranoia is understandable, with the whole word of mouth approach you take.

 

There are no "traps" except for growers not following laws. It takes non compliancy to be "trapped" sir. Nobody rides you unless you're bent over. Stand up straight and represent well. Cops are not luring law abiding caregivers into breaking laws.

 

grow safe

 

Nonsense  

 

 The repubs shipped our jobs overseas and now call us takers for needing food stamps

 

Your perspective is from an  altitude ,   you have lost sight of us real folk.  (theres a dino rep with an ego so big he gotta butter his ears to get thru the doorway....thinks just like you).

 

We do follow the law......Religiously 

 

Craigswhish is 4 fools

 

How can we show republicans and Dinos' that It Is about the People and Not about the Pennies 

 

Must be a Soul required for compassion  

Edited November 26, 2013 by beourbud

[trichcycler]

why do you mention craigslist so much ?

Both republicans and democrats voted for unfair trade agreements, and both enjoy the benefits of our welfare system. There are democrats also in favor of commercializing cannabis, and removing your privilege of home growing it.

Hooray for your party, I guess.

 

Jonah Goldberg

 

1) The Trail of Tears (1838): The first Democrat President, Andrew Jackson and his successor Martin Van Buren, herded Indians into camps, tormented them, burned and pillaged their homes and forced them to relocate with minimal supplies. Thousands died along the way.

2) Democrats Cause The Civil War (1860): The pro-slavery faction of the Democrat Party responded to Abraham Lincoln's election by seceding, which led to the Civil War.

3) Formation of the KKK (1865): Along with 5 other Confederate veterans, Democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest created the KKK.

4) 300 Black Americans Murdered (1868): "Democrats in Opelousas, Louisiana killed nearly 300 blacks who tried to foil an assault on a Republican newspaper editor."

5) The American Protective League and The Palmer Raids (1919-1921): Under the leadership of Woodrow Wilson, criticizing the government became a crime and a fascist organization, the American Protective League was formed to spy on and even arrest fellow Americans for being insufficiently loyal to the government. More than 100,000 Americans were arrested, with less than 1% of them ever being found guilty of any kind of crime.

6) Democrats Successfully Stop Republicans From Making Lynching A Federal Crime (1922): "The U.S. House adopted Rep. Leonidas Dyer’s (R., Mo.) bill making lynching a federal crime. Filibustering Senate Democrats killed the measure."

7) The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment (1932-1972): Contrary to what you may have heard, Democrats in Alabama did not give black Americans syphilis. However, the experimenters did know that subjects of the experiment unknowingly had syphilis and even after it was proven that penicillin could be used to effectively treat the disease in 1947, the experiments continued. As a result, a number of the subjects needlessly infected their loved ones and died, when they could have been cured.

8) Japanese Internment Camps (1942): Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt issued an executive order that led to more than 100,000 Japanese Americans being put into "bleak, remote camps surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards."

9) Alger Hiss Convicted Of Perjury (1950): Hiss, who helped advise FDR at Yalta and was strongly defended by the Left, turned out to be a Soviet spy. He was convicted of perjury in 1950 (Sadly, the statute of limitations on espionage had run out), but was defended by liberals for decades until the Verona papers proved so conclusively that he was guilty that even most his fellow liberals couldn't continue to deny it.

10) The West Virgina Democrat primary is rigged by John F. Kennedy (1960): From an interview with the late, great Robert Novak.

John Hawkins: You also said that without question, John F. Kennedy rigged the West Virginia Democratic primary in (1960), but that the Wall Street Journal killed the story. Do you think that sort of thing is still occurring with great regularity and do you wish the Journal had reported the story when it happened?

Robert Novak: In my opinion, they should have. They sent two reporters down to West Virginia for six weeks and they came back with a carefully documented story on voter fraud in West Virginia, buying votes, and how he beat Humphrey in the primary and therefore got the nomination. But, Ed Kilgore, the President of Dow Jones and publisher of the Wall Street Journal, a very conservative man, said it wasn’t the business of the Wall Street Journal to decide the nominee of the Democratic Party and he killed the story. That story didn’t come out for many, many years — 30-40 years. It was kept secret all that time.

11) The Bay of Pigs (1961): After training a Cuban militia to overthrow Castro, Kennedy got cold feet and didn't give the men all the air support they were promised. As a result, they were easily defeated by Castro's men and today, Cuba is still ruled by a hostile, anti-American dictatorship.

12) Fire Hoses And Attack Dogs Used On Children (1963): Birmingham, Alabama's notorious Commissioner of Public Safety, Democrat Bull Connor, used attack dogs and fire hoses on children and teenagers marching for civil rights. Ultimately, thousands of them would also be arrested.

13) Stand In The Schoolhouse Door (1963): Democrat George Wallace gave his notorious speech against integrating schools at the University of Alabama in which he said, "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."

14) Escalation In Vietnam (1964): Lyndon Johnson dramatically escalated our troops’ presence in Vietnam while he simultaneously put political restrictions in place that made the war unwinnable. As a result, 58,000 Americans died in a war that ultimately achieved none of its aims.

15) Chappaquiddick (1969): The Democrats’ beloved "Liberal Lion" of the Senate, Ted Kennedy ran off the road into a tidal pool with passenger Mary Jo Kopechne in the car. Kennedy swam free and then spent 9 hours plotting how he would reveal the news to the press while she slowly suffocated to death.

16) Democrats Deliver South Vietnam To The North (1975): "In 1975, when there were no Americans left in Vietnam, the left wing of the Democratic Party killed the government of South Vietnam, cut off all of its funding, cut off all of its ammunition, and sent a signal to the world that the United States had abandoned its allies." --

17) The Iranian Hostage Crisis (1979-1981): 52 Americans were held hostage by the government of Iran for 444 days. After Jimmy Carter’s disastrous, failed rescue attempt, the hostages were finally released after Ronald Reagan's inaugural address.

18) Bill Clinton turns down Osama Bin Laden (1996): In Bill Clinton's own words, "'Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.' — Bill Clinton explains to a Long Island, N.Y., business group why he turned down Sudan’s offer to extradite Osama Bin Laden to America in 1996." Had Bill Clinton accepted Sudan's offer, 9/11 would have likely never happened.

19) Bill Clinton was impeached (1998): Clinton became only the 2nd President in American history to be impeached after he lied under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

20) America loses its AAA credit rating (2011): The United States was first given its AAA credit in 1917, but it couldn’t survive Barack Obama's record breaking spending. In 2011, America lost its AAA credit rating.

[bobandtorey]

My services are advertised, not my good meds. I can grow when others choose not to. Only a few people in my life know what I do.

if you're a caregiver counting on "word of mouth" in this craft to help pay your garden costs, or sell your overages,you are in for a big surprise. "Word of Mouth" is exactly what responsible caregivers and patients try to avoid. My patients don't know each other, or me, before they locate me online. I assure you, there is no trap, and your paranoia is understandable, with the whole word of mouth approach you take.

 

There are no "traps" except for growers not following laws. It takes non compliancy to be "trapped" sir. Nobody rides you unless you're bent over. Stand up straight and represent well. Cops are not luring law abiding caregivers into breaking laws.

 

grow safe

 

 

 

There are no "traps" except for growers not following laws. It takes non compliancy to be trapped ? sorry i disagree 

We where setup inn 2009 and the first day we  where in Court the first words that came out of the judges month was (There will be no medical marihuana in my town)

[trichcycler]

I get that BT, I do. But you told me you were not compliant when you began growing your medical marijuana. Can you tell me who set you up to plant those seeds before the state verified your eligibility ?

It is our duty to take efforts to remove that judge, at least from mmmj cases, if you have not done so already.

There are no "traps" except for growers not following laws. It takes non compliancy to be trapped ? sorry i disagree 

We where setup inn 2009 and the first day we  where in Court the first words that came out of the judges month was (There will be no medical marihuana in my town)

[beourbud]

grassmatch

 

Friend  step away from the Cut and Paste.....we want to hear what you think

[trichcycler]

I think you've tried craigslist, and failed. I think you switch your political support when convenient. I think the pic of your bud is spectacular, with mouth watering form and  coloring, and I think I would like to sample some outdoor magic, the kind you have there.

I think its been along time since I had outdoor quality like that one.

[trichcycler]

I think its Nazi crazy we have to have a permit from a few hundred politico's to garden an ancient herb. I think it nuts to take prescription medicine to cover symptoms while doing nothing to treat the causes. I think I'd like to share a diabeticII cure here someday, but I think I'm scared of the backlash, and sounding a bit democratic too ; )

[beourbud]

oops 

Edited November 26, 2013 by beourbud

[beourbud]

I think you've tried craigslist, and failed. I think you switch your political support when convenient. I think the pic of your bud is spectacular, with mouth watering form and  coloring, and I think I would like to sample some outdoor magic, the kind you have there.

I think its been along time since I had outdoor quality like that one.

 

I think you thinketh to much

 

Why would i ever want to go to CL?   i wouldnt   Been to most disp....CL gotta be cray cray.  

 

"Bad experience"...Thats All i ever hear about it

 

I am pro home grow so...Get Off My Grass

 

And it is a shame that bud as this is not commonplace...It can be if you grow it yourself....IN THE SUN

 

We do things a little Better here in Michigan...and we do it in the Cold

Edited November 26, 2013 by beourbud

[beourbud]

Let the corps keep petro chem pharma..We the People want Hemp...Unadulterated...Decriminalized

Edited November 26, 2013 by beourbud

[trichcycler]

You asked me what I think, I answered swiftly. there's more going on up there, but I left it out of the answer.

 

You're the only one I recall speaking of selling/buying from craigslist since I've been a member. Strikes me odd is all. No accusations, like yours though.

that quality bud is common place indeed. Among the growers I know it's acceptable. Nothing of less Q would get through. I see it can be had in the sun, thank you, but assure you it can be done indoors also, every single day of the year. Otherwise folks like me would have to store an illegal amount all winter just to have my supply.

 

great though for folks with smaller needs during down season

Edited November 26, 2013 by grassmatch