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I'm looking to buy a tent to get a small start on my plants while I wait for my renovations to the grow shed to be done, I'm hoping that by the time I'm done vegging out my very first set, the shed will be good to go. So my question is: Does anyone have a tent that I could buy from them? I'm looking for something maybe 6'x6' ish if possible, been seeing a few here and there but I find myself uncertain as to if there are any particular brands to abstain from. That, and retail prices are scary.

 

Anyone who has some info on nutrients though, I have a question for those too! Though, please keep in mind I will be doing individual DWC systems (not sure how much that will play into the selection of the nutes) First and foremost, I want to go with one of the PH Perfect lines. Be it Connoisseur (A/B), Grow/Micro/Bloom, or Sensi Bloom, can anyone tell me which of the three, if you've had experience with these, has a decent history of working well? I tend to avoid asking "Which works the best" as there are ups and downs to all. 

 

Following that, I still need to choose what other supplements to use! From the Hobbyist through GM bundles, to be perfectly clear, those options are, but not limited to:

Voodoo Juice, Big Bud Liquid, B-52, Overdrive, Piranha, Bud Candy, Final Phase, Tarantula, Sensizym, Nirvana, Bud Ignitor, Rhino Skin, and Bud Factor X.

 

I've also been toying around with going with FloraGro, FloraMicro, and FloraBloom if anyone has any input there otherwise.

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A tent may not be nesicary if your grow shed will be ready by the time the plants are ready to go to budd!  You could use a closet if you have one that is the right size for you, or you could find a spot in your house that you can make a make shift veg room with the plastic rolls, black on one side white on the other, white goes on the grow side lol!

 

You can leave your veg on 24/7 and if worse comes to worse you can veg them a lil longer as long as you will have room for them to shoot up and bush out!

 

You can find tents on ebay that come with t-5's and some cheap inline fans, actualy everything you supposedly need, even for dwc!

 

Best of luck on the dwc, many on here have it down to a science and get some of the best meds that way, me It made my head hurt, I didnt want to have to be a chemist. botonist, mathmatician, lmao!

 

A few on here come to mind, one in paticular and im sure you can find a tutorial from longhairbrian!

 

Best of luck to you!

 

Peace

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I'd like to veg my plants for a few to get them to a decent size, I'd rather not grow a bunch of plants, just a few larger ones, so I'll even be switching out the veg room light to a 1000 watt Eye Hortilux, with ideally switching that light to a Hortilux Blue, using the normal Hort's for the flower room, the reason I was looking for a tent was because my closets are pretty much all packed with stuff. I was just going to set the tent in the basement as a temporary thing until said noted shed was complete. I'll have to look up that guy then for sure to check out a few things, I'm pretty ocd about things so the constant measurements are right in my preferred ballpark, as I absolutely love playing chemist.

 

I'd have to agree though, there are quite a few tents just sort of sitting on amazon and such, the problem being I'm not sure which of those brands is actually a quality piece of grow-equipment, leading to my stalling in simply purchasing one. That's why I ask so many questions though, I tend to make sure to know all of that info before making any sort of hasty decision. Thank you though.

 

Edited to add: Couldn't find anything on this Longhairbrian guy, but that's perfectly alright. 

 

Re-edit: It was only after this that I learned that the SN I was looking for was LongHairBri, not Brian, darn do I feel silly sometimes.

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Alright so I've found the tent that I will be purchasing, I'm just going with a simple Growlab 120 for the time being.

 

Now on to the nutrients: 

 

For the grow nutrients I'm considering using either one of the AN lines, either SensiGrow A/B or G-M-B, or the GH Flora Series (FloraGrow, FloraMicro, and FloraBloom) and of course a couple of small supplements (To be determined when the base Grow and Base flower Nutes are determined) 

 

For the Flowering Nutrients, My choices are again the GN Flora series, or AN Connoisseur A/B, SensiBloom A/B, or the AN's G-M-B.

 

Anyone have any experience with either of those two nutrient bases? Have to make sure to mention this again, I will be growing in Dwc.

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The AN line (or at least the ones I was looking at/mentioned) were chosen mostly because of the "Ph perfect" thing, being a newbie I felt that the slight hand holding could be helpful in regards to it mostly auto-balancing itself. It seemed like a good choice for large dwc pots because it could stay in the res and mostly self adjust. I'm still trying to figure out how to do a bucket change once I've netted the plants, that's been one of my bigger problem ideas thus far.

 

I narrowed my choices down, though I was told that if I decided to use coco as the medium instead of hydro-ton then I need to make sure to pick up some Cal-mag, I was under the impression that coco leeches from the plant? Anyone else have anything to say on that one if I've been misinformed? 

 

Going with AN so far, though the person I learned most of what I have learned, used GH Flora with absolutely amazing results of which I've not seen in...jeesh, ever. I have his feeding sched but I'd rather sort of kinda mess with my own to get a good basis for myself of what works well and doesn't. Though, again, his results didn't lie so I've thought about it, that's the only reason I included the Flora series in the lineup though to be honest.

 

I was looking at the AN SensiGrow A/B and SensiBloom A/B, with POSSIBLY using only the SensiGrow through Veg, and switching to Connoisseur A/B for flowering? Any suggestions or experience with that?

 

Also, thank you Grass for the rec on that.

 

Will are you talking about the FloraDuo? My uncle was thinking of switching to that, he currently uses the Flora 3 part but if the Duo wont do anything more for him then I can let him know not to make the switch.

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you could grow dwc with plants in Styrofoam, the plants needs will remain the same.  Coco has been with issues for me, but it aint rocket science, only a substrate. sand will function also. pea gravel, etc. I liked hydroton rocks myself, for the recycle, ease, and looks. don't forget to add silica to your feeding program.

The AN line (or at least the ones I was looking at/mentioned) were chosen mostly because of the "Ph perfect" thing, being a newbie I felt that the slight hand holding could be helpful in regards to it mostly auto-balancing itself. It seemed like a good choice for large dwc pots because it could stay in the res and mostly self adjust. I'm still trying to figure out how to do a bucket change once I've netted the plants, that's been one of my bigger problem ideas thus far.

 

I narrowed my choices down, though I was told that if I decided to use coco as the medium instead of hydro-ton then I need to make sure to pick up some Cal-mag, I was under the impression that coco leeches from the plant? Anyone else have anything to say on that one if I've been misinformed?

 

Going with AN so far, though the person I learned most of what I have learned, used GH Flora with absolutely amazing results of which I've not seen in...jeesh, ever. I have his feeding sched but I'd rather sort of kinda mess with my own to get a good basis for myself of what works well and doesn't. Though, again, his results didn't lie so I've thought about it, that's the only reason I included the Flora series in the lineup though to be honest.

 

I was looking at the AN SensiGrow A/B and SensiBloom A/B, with POSSIBLY using only the SensiGrow through Veg, and switching to Connoisseur A/B for flowering? Any suggestions or experience with that?

 

Also, thank you Grass for the rec on that.

 

Will are you talking about the FloraDuo? My uncle was thinking of switching to that, he currently uses the Flora 3 part but if the Duo wont do anything more for him then I can let him know not to make the switch.

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Silica eh? What would you suggest? As it stands, I was going to go with Voodoo Juice, Big Bud Liquid, B-52 and Overdrive. I can refine that and use less, and even switch them out with others even. I was just going to buy the Hobbyist bundle and see where it got me.

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So it's sort of like trying to modify a three part into a Lucas formula..only they don't even give you grow, just micro/bloom pre done..that's sort of odd, but whatever works for folks! I'll let him know for sure not to make the switch in that case, because as it stands he's finally starting to get where he wants to be with his current nutrients. His thing was that he was starting new strains, so he wanted to start them trying new nutes.  I'll have to check out that ProTekt stuff then for sure.

 

I'm not overly concerned with the startup cost, that's always the very worst part that turns folks away, it's making it over that hump that gets you where you want to be, yeah? I consider it an investment, not a cost per say, that's what keeps me chipper on it. That, and listening to some good funk music.  ha

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Silica needs to be stabilized in a 7 ph,  so it is not normally contained in a nutrient solution. But often come as potassium supplements.

 

I started in 6 tents of varying sizes, in a room, like a maze. I then built a steel building for the craft outdoors with a ridiculously equipped grow room inside and lots of power, its own spring water well and electric pump. Started with clear roof panels, and outside air exchange, settled on steel roof panels, sealed room. I admit I miss my tent city often. But I love my room. I'm considering putting some tents inside my room, like a jackass ! Some of the most photogenic buds were coaxed in those light sealers, and the reflective interior cant be beat. I used a big foot low profile 2x4 flood/drain tables in my tents, and settled on Dutch Master Gold. they have horrible quality control standards, and I thank them for being instrumental in my decision to never buy store nutrients again.

 

If a few bucks is not a concern I suggest getting your grow on, concentrating on quality timers, ballasts, food grade buckets, water proof fittings, and a shop vac. lol. there wont be a need to reinvent a nutrient formula for budgetary constraints. they all worked well for me, some easier to use than others , some more costly.

 

you could install a drain in the bottom of each bucket, link them together, and petcock the end of the loop for a quick change method. water levels are easily tracked with a clear tube connected to a drain in the bottom, running up the outside of the bucket to the top, filled to the inside level. I linked those and used to fill also.

I retired the system as too much work for me, but the results like you already know were among the best I've seen. the moment I realized that the size of the plant is not important in our legal climate of a 5 patient restriction. Now I grow 18-30inch plants, and don't much care what the weights are. I'm accustomed to 2+ each and that's cool, little work, little trim, lots of different strains, instead of lots of product from one.

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I was almost thinking about some sort of Res system or control bucket for my plants once they reach flower, ultimately what I'd like to do is when I go to switch them from grow to flower, is switch them  from 5gal buckets to some 15gallon buckets (They are modified quite well to fit the netti lids). I want those ladies to be big if I'm only grow a few. My only problem, I'm a terrible engineer so building this sort of stuff doesn't come easily to me. But that's what the learning process is for! 

 

I'm excited for the tent, I ended up going with a Growlab 145 in the end of it all, it's  at 4'9" x 4'9" x 6'7". Should be big enough for the time being, I'm just excited to be able to get started. Now I must pick seeds. I find myself wondering if I should try auto's for my first grow, or go with actual plants for the first grow..not that auto's aren't real plants, just that they do that weird....no matter how much sun I get, I make buds, thing...

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Again, price isn't so much an issue, I'd rather pay more money for something, I feel that in a lot of cases, not all but many, you get what you pay for, and this is something I'd like to not really skimp on. Is it really wise to mix different nutes from different companies though? Mind you, I'll be growing from seed, not clones.

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Ive used both and got better results with h&g roots excellurator. Its still not cheap by any means. I mix nute lines with no problems, most make the same things but some are just better than others. I also use sensi base nutes, although i had problems with the ph perfect line for a little while, apparantly if your not using ro water, you need to bubble the nutes for about a day before giving to plants, but since your going to run dwc, i wouldnt worry about.

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how does the plant world survive without all these additives lol

 

Again, price isn't so much an issue, I'd rather pay more money for something, I feel that in a lot of cases, not all but many, you get what you pay for, and this is something I'd like to not really skimp on. Is it really wise to mix different nutes from different companies though? Mind you, I'll be growing from seed, not clones.

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consider these?

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Grass, I'm going to limb it and say that you know a lot about the differences between an organically grown product and a synthetically bolstered product, could you please give me a scope of what precisely the difference in product is?

Far be it for me to intrude but EVERY GROWER and PATIENT knows Sun Grown Natural Organic is the gold standard. If you have never had the pleasure, please reserve your opinion until you have.

Please, pray tell what makes the delicious sounding "synthetically bolstered product" better?

 

It is like the milk that comes in a box and sits on a shelf for a year. They claim it is just as good if not better.than real milk? real Milk? We get our milk from the Amish..cheap, rich and delish.

 

Sun Grown......Naturally Organic!

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Far be it for me to intrude but EVERY GROWER and PATIENT knows Sun Grown Natural Organic is the gold standard. If you have never had the pleasure, please reserve your opinion until you have.

Please, pray tell what makes the delicious sounding "synthetically bolstered product" better?

 

It is like the milk that comes in a box and sits on a shelf for a year. They claim it is just as good if not better.than real milk? real Milk? We get our milk from the Amish..cheap, rich and delish.

 

Sun Grown......Naturally Organic!

If you had paid attention, I never stated that the synthetic product was better, I asked Grass what the difference in outcome was in variation of use between organic and synthetic and their respective end products.

 

Everyone on this board that has been reading my posts KNOWS that I've never grown before, furthermore, from that it's fairly easy to surmise that I also know next to nothing about what nutrients to ACTUALLY use, thus all of my question asking. Quit pointing fingers and being a butt in my general direction for no reason.

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Again, price isn't so much an issue, I'd rather pay more money for something, I feel that in a lot of cases, not all but many, you get what you pay for, and this is something I'd like to not really skimp on. Is it really wise to mix different nutes from different companies though? Mind you, I'll be growing from seed, not clones.

Learn to make your own soil. It's e z, it's better, it's MUCH cheaper, you wont run out ,it's more consistent and you know exactly what's in it. Edited by beourbud
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Learn to make your soil. It's e z, it's better, it's cheaper, it's more consistent and you know exactly what's in it.

While I understand that soil works for you,  please don't attempt to push your particular style of growing on me while I still have my own current grow room to plan. I ask for specifics in all of my posts in regards to hydroponics because  that is what I am interested in learning.  

 

In regards to what you quoted however, I'm positive that the point of that particular post was to relay that the cost problem wasn't so much of an issue, thus making the point of "making your own soil is cheaper." a bit moot.

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