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Howdy.. I was approved for my MMMP card on Wed. I was given an application to send in along with a check for $100....I came to the question (paraphrased)... Do you want to be your own caregiver or have someone else.. I answered someone else. The next question asks for a name, licence #, etc.. How do I go about getting a caregiver in my area? Grand Rapids, MI.. How much "compensation" is customary? It won't help me to have a medicine that I can't afford! Maybe an e-mail address where I can find some teaching. Ignorant means you just don't know. I am ignorant. Easy prey.. Any help?

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you're not ignorant, welcome to the forum. You've come to the right place.

Start a thread listing some of your caregiver expectations, maybe the amount of mj you need, and what you can afford.

Tell us a little about yourself. Caregivers often can make a spot for someone they believe they can help. I hope you find one quick

 

peace

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Welcome to the boards. Your first priority should be getting your card. [imho]  So untill you have time to locate a caregiver that suits your needs, you should just white-out your choice for a caregiver and be your own caregiver. It is only a $10 charge to make the change to having someone else be your caregiver, along with completeing the appropriate form. No big deal. We do it all the time.  Best of luck. 

 

Uninformed is a little less demeaning term [imho]. And we can help to remedy that situation here for you. There's tons of grow tips and techniques about growing, or just about anything else Cannabis here. Enjoy! 

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Careful with the white-out. LARA now rejects forms with white-out.

 

Also, understand the applicable terminology. If you are a patient growing your own, that's exactly what you are. You are not your own caregiver. If this were the case, certain felony convictions would disqualify you from growing your own. But since growing your own doesn't make you a CG, there are no past felonies that disqualify you from growing your own.

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YEP. This way with NO CAREGIVER,as a pt you can purchase from any source. Don't let ANYBODY talk you into letting them be your CG until YOU are sure. Remember,CGs are just another word for salesmen. If someone tries to talk you into assigning them,RUN. You will notice now that you will get many replies because you said you are looking for a CG. And all of them will be friendly,offer free samples,promise pricing you can afford,and be ready to tell you how HONEST they are. And stay off Craigs List . I wouldn't trust anybody on that site.

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YEP. This way with NO CAREGIVER,as a pt you can purchase from any source. Don't let ANYBODY talk you into letting them be your CG until YOU are sure. Remember,CGs are just another word for salesmen. If someone tries to talk you into assigning them,RUN. You will notice now that you will get many replies because you said you are looking for a CG. And all of them will be friendly,offer free samples,promise pricing you can afford,and be ready to tell you how HONEST they are. And stay off Craigs List . I wouldn't trust anybody on that site.

Even if you have a caregiver you can purchase from any source.

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welcome to the boards.

 

i will add -

 

be careful when you approach folks to help grow your medicine for you..

 

it should be a comfortable relationship with nothing to hide on either side of the equation.. if you do not feel comfortable with someone.. then continue your search.. i know for a fact there are thousands of good quality caregivers out there looking to help fellow patients..

 

that being said there are potentially as many bad ones.  it can be a minefield to maneuver through...

 

send in your paperwork without a caregiver for now... you can very easily add one when you are comfortable and find one. 

 

my advice would be.. first and always.. Grow your own.

 

if your able it is the best way to control all the variables such as price, quality, amount and strains...

 

remember.. ignorance is bliss :)

 

ask away here... you will get a variety of answers...

 

Good luck and again welcome to the boards..

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excellent point Highlander !

Also, if by growing your own you are your own CG, that necessarily means that patients who are 18, 19, 20 years old could not grow their own because you have to be 21 to be a CG. Ill be glad when no one in this community refers to a patient growing their own as a CG to him/herself.

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??? The only way it matters is if you have felonies ? If you dont have any felonies, no worries?  If you do you are a felon who is a Patient and you have to grow your own because you can't be a caregiver?  Ok,  point made?

 

Careful with the white-out. LARA now rejects forms with white-out.

Also, understand the applicable terminology. If you are a patient growing your own, that's exactly what you are. You are not your own caregiver. If this were the case, certain felony convictions would disqualify you from growing your own. But since growing your own doesn't make you a CG, there are no past felonies that disqualify you from growing your own.

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??? The only way it matters is if you have felonies ? If you dont have any felonies, no worries?  If you do you are a felon who is a Patient and you have to grow your own because you can't be a caregiver?  Ok,  point made?

Or, as pointed out above, if you are an adult under 21. I have met two patients who assumed they could not grow their own because they were not eligible to be a CG. So the point is necessary to make for the benefit of the less informed. Sorry if this bothers you.

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Highlander, you assume a considerable amount my friend. Even though the point I was making is for the OP to not check the box to have a caregiver is all.

 

 As far as Caregivers go you have pointed out that that a minor cannot become a caregiver nor can a felon be a legal Caregiver. So your point is more or less extraneous. OK, according to you I was wrong about the white out. I can accept that. As far as clarity it seems convenient to assume the person with possesion of the plants is considered the Patients Caregiver v the Patient being his own Caregiver, which of course assumes he is in possession of the plants. So you point out, correctly, that a Felon cannot become a Primary Caregiver, and also that a minor cannot become a Primary Caregiver, also true! 

 

However they can become Patients. And the one thing a Caregiver needs even if he is over 21 and has no felonies is a Patient. So basically Patients create their own Caregivers which I will distinguish here as their Personal Caregivers. You are correct that Felons and Minors cannot be Primary [ or for others, Public ] Caregivers, they can in effect be their own personal caregivers. 

 

I hope between the two of us we have clarified this somewhat for someone... if not, feel free to provide some more enlightenment, I try to keep an open mind also....    peace

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Highlander, you assume a considerable amount my friend. Even though the point I was making is for the OP to not check the box to have a caregiver is all.

 

 As far as Caregivers go you have pointed out that that a minor cannot become a caregiver nor can a felon be a legal Caregiver. So your point is more or less extraneous. OK, according to you I was wrong about the white out. I can accept that. As far as clarity it seems convenient to assume the person with possesion of the plants is considered the Patients Caregiver v the Patient being his own Caregiver, which of course assumes he is in possession of the plants. So you point out, correctly, that a Felon cannot become a Primary Caregiver, and also that a minor cannot become a Primary Caregiver, also true! 

 

However they can become Patients. And the one thing a Caregiver needs even if he is over 21 and has no felonies is a Patient. So basically Patients create their own Caregivers which I will distinguish here as their Personal Caregivers. You are correct that Felons and Minors cannot be Primary [ or for others, Public ] Caregivers, they can in effect be their own personal caregivers. 

 

I hope between the two of us we have clarified this somewhat for someone... if not, feel free to provide some more enlightenment, I try to keep an open mind also....    peace

You either appoint a caregiver or you have NO CAREGIVER(says that on the back of your card). There is no 'being your own caregiver'. That would be using the term 'caregiver' incorrectly. You can grow your own plants as a patient but you still wounldn't be considered your own caregiver.
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If you PLAN on getting a caregiver you may want to get them right away.  If you send in your form then you have no #'s to fill in for a caregiver change if you find one before you get your card.  Not a big deal but then you have to wait an unspecified time till the cards arrive.  If you get a caregiver and send in an APPLICATION you are good to go in 20 business days.  If you fill out a change of caregiver before you get your hard card it may take a while for them to catch up and get your cg their card.  On an application you and your caregiver are covered for transfers at 20 business days.  If you change your caregiver he/she is not covered to transfer to you until the cards arrive.

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If you PLAN on getting a caregiver you may want to get them right away.  If you send in your form then you have no #'s to fill in for a caregiver change if you find one before you get your card.  Not a big deal but then you have to wait an unspecified time till the cards arrive.  If you get a caregiver and send in an APPLICATION you are good to go in 20 business days.  If you fill out a change of caregiver before you get your hard card it may take a while for them to catch up and get your cg their card.  On an application you and your caregiver are covered for transfers at 20 business days.  If you change your caregiver he/she is not covered to transfer to you until the cards arrive.

Very good point about designating a CG on the application vs a change form. This difference isn't brought up enough.

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You either appoint a caregiver or you have NO CAREGIVER(says that on the back of your card). There is no 'being your own caregiver'. That would be using the term 'caregiver' incorrectly. You can grow your own plants as a patient but you still wounldn't be considered your own caregiver.

Well even if the rules of strict construcionalism were the norm here. And keeping an eye on the lines of succession. Even though you dont appoint a king you simply king them like in checkers, this is similar to how a Caregiver is created. Only Patients can create Caregivers. Similar to checkers you just king[caregiver] them. And with the requiste paperwork & a $10 m.o....poof like magic a New Caregiver. If you are already a king it is redundant to re-king yourself...

 

Assume this * word is implied and it seems to make more sense  NO *[other] CAREGIVER. Not as literal.

What is a Patient with his own Plants? a PATIENT NO CAREGIVER  OR A Patient/Caregiver?

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Well even if the rules of strict construcionalism were the norm here. And keeping an eye on the lines of succession. Even though you dont appoint a king you simply king them like in checkers, this is similar to how a Caregiver is created. Only Patients can create Caregivers. Similar to checkers you just king[caregiver] them. And with the requiste paperwork & a $10 m.o....poof like magic a New Caregiver. If you are already a king it is redundant to re-king yourself...

 

Assume this * word is implied and it seems to make more sense  NO *[other] CAREGIVER. Not as literal.

What is a Patient with his own Plants? a PATIENT NO CAREGIVER  OR A Patient/Caregiver?

So then you can have an extra 2.5 ounces on hand for yourself? lol Happy Easter.
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Happy Easter!!

 

A patient is someone with a condition.

A caregiver is a person who gives care to a patient.

 

So if a patient is growing their own, they would be giving themselves care, but wouldn't be caregiving themselves... A patient does not hold the title of a caregiver if they are only a patient growing their own cannabis... Just read the act and fill out the forms for lara, you designate. CG or you grow your own... Lol some of these topics go WAY over board, still fun stuff to read though!

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