Can Someone Please Help Me! I Am Plagued With Nanners

[michiganEL]

guys, i have a question.  i am in the middle of a grow, two month veg in soil, five gal buckets, and everything was going great.  i have 1200 watts on them, temps at 77 to 81 on the hottest days, everything seemed perfect.

 

my problem is, i used unknown seeds from good buds, and every single female has sprouted nanners and even full male flowers at the nodes.  they all pollinated each other the middle of week three.  so i have five females with small immature buds that will have seeds.  i already found some immature seed pods.

 

my question is... how the hell do i secure decent clones that will not throw nanners at lease not this early in flower?  i have absolutely no light leaks and my plants are healthy as hell, so i feel the problem is genetics.

 

im in lansing, i called nearly all the stores asking and nobody has clones.  i cringe at using craiglist, i have had to use it before and feel like it is so shady, and i want to be certain i am getting proper genetics that wont have hermie traits.

 

how do i get clones around here?  i cant buy 12 at a time i need to stay in my limits,m i would prefer three or six.   

[Mickeydee]

Order some seeds online.  Then you'll know what you have, and you won't have to worry about bringing in some infestation to your garden.

[t-pain]

my problem is, i used unknown seeds from good buds

 

 

its learning time.

 

good buds do not have any seeds.

what you had was hermie bud and hermie seeds that you grew into hermies.

 

but thats OK! hermies can still be smoked or turned into hash/budder/oil

dont cut them down just yet. let them finish up. it just means you will probably be using edibles instead of smoking for a while.

 

remember to completely wipe down the grow area to kill any pollen that has been thrown.

 

@mickeydee , he wants clones because they will be quicker to grow than seeds, and quicker than a seed order in the mail. he needs to replace his entire hermie garden with proper plants, really quickly.

 

did you call the marijuana delivery services ? they may have clones.

did you check any compassion clubs in your area and make some friends and get some clones or cuttings from members there?

theres budtrader for clones as well, but its similar to craigslist. like mickeydee says, watch the plants that you bring into your garden.

doing some sprays with h2o2, neem+soap, diatomacceous earth will help kill off any buggies.

 

also if you mention what city you are near, there maybe people on here willing to help. i make no promises.

 

good luck.

Edited August 12, 2014 by t-pain

[michiganEL]

correct, i would rather not order online considering i have access to a medical card and multiple dispensaries. and i dont want things shipped to my house.  i never used budtrader but will give it a shot, even though i dont trust craigslist or sites like it.

 

i just moved to the lansing area so i dont have any contacts at all, my only options would be from people i dont know.  

i have not looked for any compassion clubs or delivery services but i called most places on weedmaps and thcfinder.

Edited August 12, 2014 by michiganEL

[MGG]

I know you said you checked for light leaks and there are none. Just make sure you get in your flower room and sit for a good 15-20 mins before beginning the search for any light leaks as it will take that long for your eyes to adjust to the darkness and give you your "night vision". Believe me it will amaze you at what you can see after your eyes adjust that wasn't there before.

 

I also understand why you want to start with clones. As t-pain said make sure you quarantine any clones that you may get and treat them and make sure they have no pests before introducing them into your garden. Clones would def get you to harvest a lot faster, but if you're not careful you could end up in the same sitch you're in now with clones from an unknown source. MGG

[michiganEL]

my plants are in their own dedicated bedroom and within that room they are in a framed lightproof room, even if the bedroom door was ever left open, which it doesnt, light still cannot enter the grow room due to my light traps and corners.

 

yeah i totally prefer clones over seeds, i already had to kill 7 males last go, im done wasting my money growing crap i dont need.

 

and yes, i absolutely need clones that wont hermie.  man nothing is easy huh lol

[MGG]

my plants are in their own dedicated bedroom and within that room they are in a framed lightproof room, even if the bedroom door was ever left open, which it doesnt, light still cannot enter the grow room due to my light traps and corners.

 

yeah i totally prefer clones over seeds, i already had to kill 7 males last go, im done wasting my money growing crap i dont need.

 

and yes, i absolutely need clones that wont hermie.  man nothing is easy huh lol

Sounds like you've got the light leaks covered. Always good to double check and make sure no equipment inside your room is putting off any light.

 

Nothing is certain. You could buy seeds from a breeder and get herms just as easy as you could get clones from someone and get a herm or contaminate your grow with pests. No, nothing is easy but if you stick with it you will be rewarded. You're just now figuring out why most good growers have had a problem with giving away herb to folks just for being a caregiver. It might not be too hard to grow some weed. Growing medical grade buds are a totally different story. MGG

[trichcycler]

guys, i have a question.  i am in the middle of a grow, two month veg in soil, five gal buckets, and everything was going great.  i have 1200 watts on them, temps at 77 to 81 on the hottest days, everything seemed perfect.

 

my problem is, i used unknown seeds from good buds, and every single female has sprouted nanners and even full male flowers at the nodes.  they all pollinated each other the middle of week three.  so i have five females with small immature buds that will have seeds.  i already found some immature seed pods.

 

my question is... how the hell do i secure decent clones that will not throw nanners at lease not this early in flower?  i have absolutely no light leaks and my plants are healthy as hell, so i feel the problem is genetics.

 

im in lansing, i called nearly all the stores asking and nobody has clones.  i cringe at using craiglist, i have had to use it before and feel like it is so shady, and i want to be certain i am getting proper genetics that wont have hermie traits.

 

how do i get clones around here?  i cant buy 12 at a time i need to stay in my limits,m i would prefer three or six.

 

lets start here;

 

vegging plants do not normally produce seeds or hermies with proper light schedules=check light schedule timers?

autoflowering varieties will show sex, flower, and produce seeds in the veg room. You'd save a ton of time and money

starting with trusted seed sources.

[michiganEL]

my biggest fear in getting clones from craigslist is that they are regular crap seeds that someone is just pushing to make a buck.  hell i have three clones that are a foot tall of these hermies and i fear someone will sell me clones like mine, bagseed gone wrong.

 

i will call up someone from budtrader on friday when i get paid.  ill try that before i use craigslist again.

 

also in my room, my ac has small LED light or two but that is covered with duct tape and a towel,  the room is pitch black.

[michiganEL]

these arent vegging dude, they have been in flower for four weeks

[+Malamute]

If minor light leaks make a plant hermie,... the strain isn't worth keeping.  People keep overbreeding these weak unstable plants and creating crappy strains that only shake and pisss all the time.

 

:-)

 

I have seen many dispensaries and other shops in state that sell seeds.  Good luck.

[+Malamute]

Don't buy clones. they almost always come with pests and diseases.  Just get seeds.

[MGG]

Well I guess you could take that stance Malamute. What would make you think that a plant needing a "dark cycle" would mean that the plant would be just fine with a, not totally dark cycle? You can say what ya want about people breeding "weak strains", I'm more concerned with eleminating issues that might be a problem later down the road.

 

Just curious...who are these "people" you are referring to so I'll know not to pop beans from them lol. MGG

[+Malamute]

If a plant hermies by moonlight, it is useless to me. :-)

 

And yes,... resolve all light leaks and be proper.  I was just off on a tangent.

[trichcycler]

"these arent vegging dude, they have been in flower for four weeks"

 

 

 

" i am in the middle of a grow, two month veg in soil"

 

sorry, somehow I must have misunderstood your "middle of the grow, two months veg" post

[trichcycler]

bud trader advertisers are not allowed to advertise on craigslist?

[michiganEL]

i was describing the details of the grow, that they were vegged for two months.  i figured it was obvious they were blooming if i am encountering nanners.  sorry for confusion

[trichcycler]

you've learned a lesson of unknown seed cultivation, investment return, wasted time...I am sorry this happened to you. If you are in the thumb area, let me know...

[michiganEL]

lesson learned my man lol definitely a lesson learned.  ive always wanted to grow bagseed anyways so at least its outta my system.  ive read many grow journals on bagseed and knew this could happen, just didnt think every single female would have the trait.  my goal was to keep my clones of the one or two females that were pure and have a sensimilla next round with this strain.  so ultimately i expected this could happen, but it is so disappointing.  

 

what is the thumb area im sorta new to michigan, i live near lansing.

[MGG]

If a plant hermies by moonlight, it is useless to me. :-)

 

And yes,... resolve all light leaks and be proper.  I was just off on a tangent.

You might want to do some research on moonlight and flowering plants. The moon has no effect on flowering plants. MGG

[Highlander]

I used to be paranoid about light leaks.  Then I bought a different house and had to get a new space set up quickly.  I was unable to get all light leaks sealed before I used the new flower room.  Then I got lazy and didn't get around to making the final fixes.  That was about four months ago.  I have had two flowering cycles since then.  Although my personal experience does not apply to everyone, I found it interesting that I have not seen a single male flower or seed in that four months.  In my own case, it seems that a pitch-black flower room is not as important as many think.

[Wild Bill]

I used to be paranoid about light leaks.  Then I bought a different house and had to get a new space set up quickly.  I was unable to get all light leaks sealed before I used the new flower room.  Then I got lazy and didn't get around to making the final fixes.  That was about four months ago.  I have had two flowering cycles since then.  Although my personal experience does not apply to everyone, I found it interesting that I have not seen a single male flower or seed in that four months.  In my own case, it seems that a pitch-black flower room is not as important as many think.

 

I agree. I think that this is another old wives tale to some extent. Obviously the light needs to be controlled but a little bit doesn't usually make nanners sprout.

 

I believe plants that hermie due to light leaks are nothing more than bad genetics. I've had some that I tended with a light on during their dark period (before I knew that this was bad) and not had a problem. I've also had some that hermied if you even said the word light in their presence.

 

Good genetics is the most important part of a good grow in my opinion.

[+Malamute]

Um,... moonlight does have effects on flowering plants coming in at .3lux or higher.  It is known that light as low as .1 lux can effect plants. Some plants actually turn their leaves at nighttime so as to not absorb moonlight at night thus reducing amount of lux reaching the plant.

 

Moonlight, car lights, street lights, and yard lights can all effect a plant.

[MGG]

Ummm...you need to do more research. Moonlight is not the same type of light as a street light or car headlights and doesn't effect them in the same way as those lights would. If what you're saying is true nobody would be able to grow anything but herms outdoors. MGG 

[+Malamute]

Sensitivity rating of plants.

 

 So many strains have been overbred and only grown indoors in absolute darkness that overly sensitive strains have been put out everywhere now.

 

 Selective breeding aye. 

 

 And I am far from wrong ... :-)