"useable" Defined / Info / Determination

[WilliamHill]

I am curious to know if there is such a "judge" per-say, for "useable" marijuana.

 

For instance, I'm allowed to possess 2.5 oz / per patient of usable marijuana.

 

However, if I had some marijuana in jars that were "curing", and not yet usable to the standards

that would temporarily put me over my limit as they are in the curing, but as the curing process progresses, I'm within my "useable" limits.

 

Technically speaking, marijuana could be considered "useable" without even being dried / trimmed / etc.

However, the "recommended date of use" would not be for some time after.

 

I'm simply trying to respect the law that allows us to heal, any input would be great.

 

Thank you.

[Wild Bill]

My best guest would be that anything that is not growing or still too moist to burn would be considered usable in court.

 

They still don't like the fact that they can't count roots and dirt toward weight so don't expect any slack because it isn't cured long enough to taste good.

[phaquetoo]

I know a whole lot of c.g's that dont cure their meds, now im not beaching but as long as you know that you can cure it when you get it if you are able to stay ahead of the game,

 

not all c.g's have time to cure it and their pt's are still thrilled just to get that dry oz!  I always put mine in different lil jars for my own use and cure it as long as I can, ie as long as I like to cure it, I can most def tell the difference some strains make me cough so bad when smoked before cured, and some well dont, the ones that do make me cough most def get cured longer or vaped so I can use it and not cough my brians out,

 

I dont think we will ever have the law say we can have more than our dried weight for cure time, unfortunatly it is part of the whole package of mm as a medicine.

 

I can bet the farm that any despenses that are open dont cure there mm either!  they would run out of product before it could cure, and they are only in it for money for the most part,,,since they are not legal at this time do you realy think the people breaking the law to supply them despenses takes the time to cure it?  Just my opin.

 

Peace

[jointedone]

Bury anything being cured in mason jars. Nobody can find it,and it is still one of the best ways to hide stuff.

[phaquetoo]

what about popin the lids?   you bury after cured and than you dont have to worry about it, only thing is remember where it is buried lol, dont do while medicating bawahahahahaha!

 

Peace

[trichcycler]

do you realy think the people breaking the law to supply them despenses takes the time to cure it? 

 

Peace

or even the time to grow it properly ? I'm guessing ounce at a time patients(w/cg) may be more perspicacious in matters of quality than gram at a time patients(w/dispensaries.

[imiubu]

Whoa grass... pulling out them big words so early this mornin? LOL jk yanno

 

 

As far as 'usable' as it currently stands and as I understand it... means 2.5 oz.

per patient of 'dried leaves and flowers'.  If it is dry, it is considered usable. 

This includes those fan leaves that didn't get disposed of directly. 

Sugar trim?

Yep, usable.

[trichcycler]

anyone care to define "dry" ?

I know some folks let their meds "dry" for months before they use it.

I "dry" mine until 75% of the original flower bud weight has evaporated in a week er so.

I do "label" the projected "dry" date, the amounts each patient will be getting. Makes me

feel legaler, even though means diddlysquat right.

[imiubu]

imo, it would be 'safest' to consider how leo might decide what constitutes 'dry'.

[Highlander]

Consider this:

 

Section 4 provides a patient or CG protection if:

 

"This subsection applies only if the primary caregiver possesses an amount of marihuana [emphasis added. note that it doesn't say "usable here so we are talking about "marijuana" as defined in the PHC, which includes wet or dry meds]- that does not exceed: 

 

(1) 2.5 ounces of usable marihuana for each qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process; and

(2) for each registered qualifying patient who has specified that the primary caregiver will be allowed under state law to cultivate marihuana for the qualifying patient, 12 marihuana plants kept in an enclosed, locked facility; and

(3) any incidental amount of seeds, stalks, and unusable roots."

 

Now, consider two scenarios:

 

1.  A patient possesses 12 plants; some roots, seeds, and stalks; and 2.5 oz of dried meds.

 

2.  A patient possess 12 plants; some roots seeds and stalks; 2.5 oz of dried meds, and 2.5 oz of meds that are not yet dry.

 

In scenario 1, the patient does not possess more marijuana (excluding non-countable seeds/roots/stalks) than 12 plants/2.5 oz

 

In scenario 2, the patient does possess more marijuana (excluding non-countable seeds/roots/stalks) than 12 plants/2.5 oz.

 

In my own opinion, all medical MJ that is protected under the act falls into one of three categories - plants, "usable marijuana," stems/seeds/stalks.

 

The safest way forward to to make sure that any MJ in your possession falls into one of these three categories and that limits are not exceeded.

 

I look at it this way.  Growing plants are, of course, plants.  Dried meds are "usable marijuana."  Harvested/drying plants are still plants.  So dry your plants whole, count them as plants, and you avoid some grey area.  The problem comes from marijuana that doesn't fit one of the three categories (plants, usable, not countable) - this would be jars of "curing" meds and/or a tray of meds that are not yet dry.  It is probably a good idea to make sure you don't have any marijuana in your possession that doesn't cleanly fit one of the three categories (plants, "usable," not countable). 

[trichcycler]

so why would we not just keep full plants intact in the drying room and remove buds as needed, essentially never even having 2.5 ounces of dried marijuana?  I can see 12 plants hanging, and 12 more growing.

[Wild Bill]

so why would we not just keep full plants intact in the drying room and remove buds as needed, essentially never even having 2.5 ounces of dried marijuana?  I can see 12 plants hanging, and 12 more growing.

 

I think that once they are no longer moist it wouldn't matter to the court whether they were hanging intact, trimmed or stored in jars, they would still be considered usable.

[trichcycler]

right, so considering the buds will no longer be moist after just a few days in proper drying conditions.....we'll continue to juggle this conundrum with small amounts of drying meds at a time, and harvest dates closely arranged with delivery dates. Patients will need to be timely with their requests and caregivers diligent with their schedules. I see no safe way of avoiding this particular rule or stretching it parameters. 

I weigh my wet harvest and stop at 14 ounces(wet) allowing me an ounce of dried material on hand for personal use. The 14 ounces will reduce daily to about 3-4 ounces in a week or so. Delivered that day, and more harvested next morning. I'd like to hear other ways of remaining legal, beyond a doubt.

[GregS]

anyone care to define "dry" ?

I know some folks let their meds "dry" for months before they use it.

I "dry" mine until 75% of the original flower bud weight has evaporated in a week er so.

I do "label" the projected "dry" date, the amounts each patient will be getting. Makes me

feel legaler, even though means diddlysquat right.

I know you get high gm, but I'm more than confident you know what "dry" is. 

[trichcycler]

yes sir. but that would suffice in a court of law while defending my own need of sweating jars adding up to more than my allowed amount?