Governor Snyder Close To Supporting Medical Marijuana Dispensaries, Edibles

[bobandtorey]

It looks like Governor Rick Snyder could be close to supporting bills that would relax restrictions on medical marijuana in Michigan.

 

 

 

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But as The Michigan Public Radio Network’s Jake Neher reports, he’s asking for some changes to the legislation first.

One bill would allow medical marijuana dispensaries in Michigan. Right now, it would leave it mostly up to local governments to regulate them. But supporters of the legislation say the governor wants dispensaries to be regulated the same statewide.

Bill sponsor Republican state Representative Mike Callton says he agrees. And he’s convinced Snyder will sign the legislation if it clears the state Senate with those changes.

“I think we’re getting so close for such a controversial bill,” he says.  “I think we’re getting so close.”

Governor Snyder’s office declined to comment on the legislation while discussions are still going on. Democratic candidate for governor Mark Schauer came out in support of the bills this week.

 

http://wkar.org/post/governor-snyder-close-supporting-medical-marijuana-dispensaries-edibles

[Kingdiamond]

Yeah maybe but he still has to find a way to get Billy Bong onboard.

[imiubu]

Regulated the same across the State?

How long will it take them to figure that out?

[bobandtorey]

IMHO many more arrest 

[journeymike]

Hello everybody this is my first post. I'm thinking Mr.Schutte will get on board with this because he is seeking re-election. Mr Snider too. It's too little too late for that. I read an e-mail a while back on this that made me believe Mr Schauer was against Medical Marijuana all together. Man since I've been a cg and patient it has really exposed me to the hypocrisy of state government and they will say anything for a vote. I guess I always believed that,but such blatant flip flopping is really quite pathetic. Don't get me wrong I understand people can change their minds and this program needs changed minds. But still quite pathetic.

[Wild Bill]

They can say anything. They don't plan on doing anything until after the election so in the meantime they can be all things to all people.

[Chauncy Gardner]

They can say anything. They don't plan on doing anything until after the election so in the meantime they can be all things to all people.

 

 

Exactly what I am thinking. They will all pay lip service to Medical Marijuana in order to pick up a few votes, then after the election they will come up with some excuse as to why they no longer support it. It is all becoming so predictable anymore. It is a sad fact that politicians can't be trusted.

[Beans]

Must be election season 

[Hayduke]

Hello everybody this is my first post. I'm thinking Mr.Schutte will get on board with this because he is seeking re-election. Mr Snider too. It's too little too late for that. I read an e-mail a while back on this that made me believe Mr Schauer was against Medical Marijuana all together. Man since I've been a cg and patient it has really exposed me to the hypocrisy of state government and they will say anything for a vote. I guess I always believed that,but such blatant flip flopping is really quite pathetic. Don't get me wrong I understand people can change their minds and this program needs changed minds. But still quite pathetic.

I am currently helping with language and negotiations on the bills, and there is no possiblity AG Schuette will get on board, election or not.  His public stance has been against medical marihuana from the beginning.  He was a major player among those opposing the Act to begin with.  Gov Snyder has indeed come around quite a bit, and has now made specific demands regarding language in the bills.  Is this political?  No one except the Gov can say for sure, but I am willing to take him at his word.  Mr. Schauer recently put out a campaign statement supporting medical marihuana in general, and specifically supporting HB 5104 and HB 4271.  I don't think this is flip flopping at all, I believe the facts have changed regarding medical marihuana for the politicians pretty much like it has for the public at large (with the politicians moving more slowly than public opinion).

[AmishRnot4ganja]

when the Republicans want to slam someone for being a follower and not a leader, they say the person is "leading from behind". That is to say that they need to know which way the wind is blowing before they decide which side they will be on. The current weiners in charge of the government know which way the wind is blowing, but they refuse to acknowledge it. What kind of leaders are these?

[journeymike]

If thats true atleast Mr.Schutte sticks with what he believes in and doesn't flip flop for votes. Im not 100% sure that him flip flopping on the mm issue would get him re-elected anyway. As for Mr Schauer, the response he had when questioned about his feelings on mm were completely negative and by his response made me feel that he was totally uneducated on marijuana in general.I still believe in his case it is a flip flop because he did not take the time to investigate the science behind marijuana and it's medicinal benifits before his e-mail response on the subject. I believe he even stated in his response that marijuana had no medical benefits. Imho, Its too close to elections for that to be a changed mind which is why i use the term flip flop. Thanks and have a nice day!

[Hayduke]

flip flop is a negative way of saying someone's opinion has evolved and changed.  Personally I am grateful that we all can change our minds and opinions, and adjust our reality from time to time.  Ten years ago, twenty years ago, thirty years ago.... the vast numbers of Americans did not favor decrim, legalization, or medical marihuana worthy of support.  Mike, by your standards on flip flop... I guess the public is a gd flip flopper too....

 

The whole flip flop thing is bull pucky.... just campaign buzzwords.

 

I read and listened to Mark Schauer on marihuana issues.  I accept him at his word.  

 

I guess one can always stick with a candidate who has never changed their opinion, never evolved, and is so certain of their viewpoint, they stick with it to the bitter end... but to me that is very very stupid....

 

Sorta describes Bill Schuette to me.... and I am definitely voting for his opponent Marc Totten....

[trichcycler]

. What kind of leaders are these?

....and who keeps putting these types in power.

[nsmn8r]

....and who keeps putting these types in power.

The people who think that voting for anyone besides D or R is a wasted vote.

[medmanmike]

flip flop is a negative way of saying someone's opinion has evolved and changed.  Personally I am grateful that we all can change our minds and opinions, and adjust our reality from time to time.  Ten years ago, twenty years ago, thirty years ago.... the vast numbers of Americans did not favor decrim, legalization, or medical marihuana worthy of support.  Mike, by your standards on flip flop... I guess the public is a gd flip flopper too....

 

The whole flip flop thing is bull pucky.... just campaign buzzwords.

 

I read and listened to Mark Schauer on marihuana issues.  I accept him at his word.  

 

I guess one can always stick with a candidate who has never changed their opinion, never evolved, and is so certain of their viewpoint, they stick with it to the bitter end... but to me that is very very stupid....

 

Sorta describes Bill Schuette to me.... and I am definitely voting for his opponent Marc Totten....

It seems to me that there are a fair number of "impotent people", including politicians, who change their minds from time to time. There are many reasons for this, some of which we all know, are very self-serving. However, there are some who believe that changing ones mind after looking at all of the facts, ( yea, I know, alot of politicians don't believe in science or facts and base their decisions on some misguided beliefs) is a good thing. For example, Jeff Bezos (Amazon founder) recently observed that, "The people who are right a lot often change their minds." He goes on to say, "The smart people constantly revise their understandings of a matter. They reconsider problems they thought they had solved. They are open to new points of view, new information, and challenges to their own ways of thinking.". And, "The ones who are wrong — well, they too often get lost in the details that just support one point of view, Bezos said."

 

I for one think this - changing one's mind after looking at all the facts is a good thing. There's always the wolf in sheep's clothing of course but if a wo/man demonstrates a changed belief and takes a stand , I.e., Dr. Sanjay Gupta, then I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/10/19/jeff-bezos-on-people-who-are-right-a-lot-vs-wrong-a-lot-has-he-got-it-right/

[t-pain]

i think the problem we see is that politicians 'change their mind' and yet still do nothing to protect patients, reschedule marijuana so it can be researched as a medicine, etc.

 

its more like they changed their business card , but they didnt change their business.

[+Malamute]

Take a step back and realize...., our community is being pandered to by politicians.

 

:-)

 

Progress...

[jamieuke]

We will be discussing this tonight on Planet Green Trees with MPR reporter Jake Neher and Rep Callton-

[Highlander]

If thats true atleast Mr.Schutte sticks with what he believes in and doesn't flip flop for votes. Im not 100% sure that him flip flopping on the mm issue would get him re-elected anyway. As for Mr Schauer, the response he had when questioned about his feelings on mm were completely negative and by his response made me feel that he was totally uneducated on marijuana in general.I still believe in his case it is a flip flop because he did not take the time to investigate the science behind marijuana and it's medicinal benifits before his e-mail response on the subject. I believe he even stated in his response that marijuana had no medical benefits. Imho, Its too close to elections for that to be a changed mind which is why i use the term flip flop. Thanks and have a nice day!

 

Why does the politician need to change his mind as opposed to just changing how he is willing "lawmake" on behalf of his constituents?  If a candidate has a personal opinion against a matter such as MMJ and states that opinion publicly, then later realizes that the people who voted for him feel differently, why do you find it wrong of him to change his position on the topic?  Myself, I want a politician who represents me who is willing to say "I am personally opposed to this." but once he sees that his stance is contrary to his constituents', he supports a position that is opposite of his previously-stated beliefs.

 

Who wants a politician who sticks to his personal agenda regardless of public opinion?  That isn't how a representative government is supposed to work.  We should be electing politicians to support our own beliefs, even if those beliefs do an about-face in the middle of his term.  

[journeymike]

Ok let me try to be more clear on my train of thought here. Changing your mind is a good thing. I understand that if people can't change their minds or opnions than nobody would be able to learn and grow as an individual. My whole point was Mr. Schauer had plenty of time to research the topic of mm (years)before his reply on the subject (which was completely negative). I was very surprised to see how against it he was. Dont get me wrong, I approve of his new outlook on mm and it's good to see that he did his due diligence on mm (if thats his reason), It's just strange that he waited 3 months before elections to do so. It's the timing of it all that brings the flip flop term out. I too will be voting for Mr. Totten for AG.in November. My point was quite simple on Mr. Schauer, timing. Like i wrote he had years to research the subject but decided to change his outlook on mm a few months before elections. To me it looks like a flip flop more than a change of mind. My definition of flip flop is a change of mind for votes only. My definition of a changed mind is for personal growth and self education. I hope you understand where im coming from now. Thanks and have a good day all. Go Tigers!

[pic book]

Yeah maybe but he still has to find a way to get Billy Bong onboard.

 

 

 

 

 

he better get on it i i mark and mail my absentee ballot in 2 weeks.

[Highlander]

Ok let me try to be more clear on my train of thought here. Changing your mind is a good thing. I understand that if people can't change their minds or opnions than nobody would be able to learn and grow as an individual. My whole point was Mr. Schauer had plenty of time to research the topic of mm (years)before his reply on the subject (which was completely negative). I was very surprised to see how against it he was. Dont get me wrong, I approve of his new outlook on mm and it's good to see that he did his due diligence on mm (if thats his reason), It's just strange that he waited 3 months before elections to do so. It's the timing of it all that brings the flip flop term out. I too will be voting for Mr. Totten for AG.in November. My point was quite simple on Mr. Schauer, timing. Like i wrote he had years to research the subject but decided to change his outlook on mm a few months before elections. To me it looks like a flip flop more than a change of mind. My definition of flip flop is a change of mind for votes only. My definition of a changed mind is for personal growth and self education. I hope you understand where im coming from now. Thanks and have a good day all. Go Tigers!

 

I still don't see a big deal with him changing his mind, even the day before the election.  I don't know what research he did or did not do before.  I don't really care.  I was disgusted when I heard his previous standpoint on MMJ.  It was just about enough for me to vote to the Snyder.  (I really don't think Snyder cares a lot about MMJ or MJ in general.  And I think Schuette is drifting alone in his own boat on a desolate lake on a distant and uninhabited plant.  He really doesn't have the support of his party.) 

 

Medical MJ and MJ in general are gaining acceptance in a ridiculously fast way.  Public opinion is shifting weekly.  Political standpoints should be and are shifting even faster (by political standards). 

 

If the day before election day a credible poll came out, showing that 65% of republican voters want legal marijuana, and that same day Schuette said "I'm personally opposed to MJ but I support the will of the people and I'll get on the weed bandwagon," that would erase a good deal of the disrespect I've accumulated for him over the past 25 years.

 

I don't care when (prior to election day), how, or for what reason a politician changes their position on a topic.   What I care about is that if they support the will of the people they represent.  I think it was John Kerry who said he was personally opposed to abortion, but he supported a woman's right to choose.  This is the attitude that I'd vote for - a representative who can set his personal opinion aside, give it the one vote he is entitled to, and then serve in accordance with how his constituents vote.

 

Changing one's position in response to the voter isn't flip-flopping to me.  If we want to use this great pejorative term, "flip-flopping," let's use it to describe someone who says what the voter wants to hear so he can get elected and then decides to go with his personal opinion after the election.

 

Restorium said something really wise here a while back, "I look at the results and then work backwards from there."  I've borrowed that line a few times now.  That's how I look at politicians.  I look at their record.  Did they support their supporters?

[phaquetoo]

It is realy rare that I agree with every one!  This is a great thread and says all I would have written but in a better way than I am able to express myself.  I realy do feel the politicians in office are flip flopping, they have had plenty of time to do polls and read polls, they have had plenty of time to change their minds, I find it very convient that they change their minds on election eve, you know what I mean, I cant stand these adds on t.v, it reminds me of high school girls starting rumors to make them selves look better, oh she is a whore come with me and I will phaq you silly! (im so sorry lady's)

 

resto is right!  see what they have done and go backwards!

 

mute the adds and do some studying, but please remember their are alot of things more important than mm that can realy make us all on disability suffer more!  No one can make me stop medicating whether it be legal or not!  But my monthly check could be cut or taken away!

 

Peace

[jointedone]

Wow. Barry supporters that criticize a Gov because he has changed his mind? If Snyder was a dem,you wouldn't say anything. You should be saying "here is a person that can LEARN and base his decision on what he has learned". But because he has a R next to his name he is evil. Schutte is an AZZ. Ever think that the Gov would like to dump him? Like our almighty AG Holder,who IS a criminal? Sheeple. You wanted barry now you have him and you have Ebola,our own soldiers being held in Mexican prisons,an open doorway to our country by anyone,releasing terrorists that have promised to come back and destroy us. Yeah you guys should be real proud. And you can stop blamimg Bush now. He also sucked. Now lets send 3000 troops BACK over to defend countries that hate our guts.Now they can come back with Ebola. You can bet they won't get treatment like this Dr did. What a wonderful job mr muslim has done,yes? Happy now?

[cristinew]

I am Happy  ,