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Here is a nice video pointing out just some of the benefits of a dash cam.

 

Kid gets dash cam so in the future he won't get ticketed because of a prick police officer. Came in handy right off the bat for him.

 

 

 

I have seen a lot of dash cam videos and I have seen a lot of bad things take place. Like LEO planting evidence. Many of the dash cam videos I have seen are from the actual police vehicle. I am taking matters into my own hands like the young man in the video above. For $200 you can easily install a high quality high definition dash cam. It will record all of the audio in the vehicle along with video. The audio can be turned off if you choose. This camera model can be easily adjusted and pointed towards the driver side window too! or just leave it pointed to the front and only get the audio of an encounter.

 

I have seen too many bad cops and heard of too many courtroom horror stories $$$.

 

For now on, I will always have a camera in my vehicle. The video I took of myself driving is just a quick sample. The video quality is more degraded after uploading to YouTube though. The raw footage is more defined. The camera works just as nice with the view not showing the hood. Much like different perspectives in a car racing video game.

 

If I get stopped by LEO claiming I was driving erratically, or blew through a stop sign, or anything else, I will have video footage to prove the claim wrong. It is a lot more polite and less provoking to have a dash cam vs. sticking a cell phone camera in an officer's face. Heck, they may not even notice you have a dash cam.

 

 

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Nothing new it happens daily in this country as long as they think theres no evidence of the conversation they threaten to slam you or come up with charges to destroy your life a lot of times these over the top confrontations lead to false charges and illegal search and seizures heres to hoping this pig gets fired.

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This is why the police do not want their interactions with the public recorded. There are too many incompetent police/bullies wearing badges out there who will be exposed for what they really are.

 

How many people know that it is legal to give the middle finger to/flip off a police officer? The Supreme court says it is ok. How many people think they could get away with this if there are no cameras recording the officers reaction? It will be a different world when (and if) cameras are recording police activities. The police are the front line of our government. We should not have to fear our police or our government.

 

I won't truly feel free again until I can say anything I want to a police officer and not fear any repercussions.

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I'v been wanting to do this, esp since the only times iv been screwed w in mi has been in the car... and never been screwed w anywhere else but in mi. Maybe iv been lucky, but based on my life experiences mi troopers are the most hostile group of cops re small quantities of weed, legal/medical or otherwise. never been in cuffs before, except by mi troopers... for less than a z, w my card nonetheless.

 

As for the cameras... got to have two cameras imo. One forward looking to document how u wre driving, and even better if it can simultaneously record your speed. And a second one for the cab that can show ur interaction w the cop, or that u weren't smokin while driving. Then good, clear audio.

 

A problem i can foresee is whether or not u have to disclose to the cop u r recording him. Which relates to where the camera stores the data... if they did something wrong & they have control ofbthe vehicle, then can remove or delete the data pretty easily. You'd almost need a stealth/hidden storage unit, apart from the main camera.

 

Id expect a proper system w high def imaging will break a grand.

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I'v been wanting to do this, esp since the only times iv been screwed w in mi has been in the car... and never been screwed w anywhere else but in mi. Maybe iv been lucky, but based on my life experiences mi troopers are the most hostile group of cops re small quantities of weed, legal/medical or otherwise. never been in cuffs before, except by mi troopers... for less than a z, w my card nonetheless.

 

As for the cameras... got to have two cameras imo. One forward looking to document how u wre driving, and even better if it can simultaneously record your speed. And a second one for the cab that can show ur interaction w the cop, or that u weren't smokin while driving. Then good, clear audio.

 

A problem i can foresee is whether or not u have to disclose to the cop u r recording him. Which relates to where the camera stores the data... if they did something wrong & they have control ofbthe vehicle, then can remove or delete the data pretty easily. You'd almost need a stealth/hidden storage unit, apart from the main camera.

 

Id expect a proper system w high def imaging will break a grand.

 

It may break a grand for me based on doing some experimenting. The camera that I own is a HD 720p. You can adjust the volume to where it will record almost any noise in the vehicle. I have a HD 1080p dash cam on the way. There are all kinds of spy cameras available too. You can have a pen spy cam in your pocket that records audio and video in 1080p. No blinking lights too! You could easily have a hidden cam in the cab of the vehicle so if they did mess with your dash cam, that would be recorded. I am not fing around anymore. As for speeding or anything like that, we got them beat now! The newer less expensive model dash cam, which is much smaller, records in HD 720p. With the right firmware it plugs into the vehicle diagnostic port. It will perfectly record your speed, oil pressure, coolant temp, can warn you if anything exceeds your settings. All this because it is plugged right in to your vehicles computer. You could probably completely cover all angles of your vehicle for less than a grand. A grand would probably get you all three cameras with everything you need, including the pen spy cam, and additional accessories required. All this in HD! 

 

Am I allowed to use my dash cam and record LEO? I would have to say He ll yes! That is part of my vehicle, my property, especially if it is connected to the vehicle computer. Whenever their cameras would help us out they claim the data was corrupted or has gone missing. I am not relying on their equipment. Besides, it is just a camera, not a gun.

 

If I loan my vehicle to someone, I would like to know where it is going and what is going on. Like with a teenage driver for instance. If my kid has an interaction with LEO, I want it all recorded.

 

I agree, there should be an additional hidden cam inside the vehicle. This is only the beginning for me! My vehicles will be completely bugged from now on.

 

You are right, most incidents with LEO happen on the road. I am really liking FlexMedia products. Very affordable if you purchase from the right vendor, and very easy to install. If you want it all installed to where you don't see any wires. A car stereo installer can help you with that.

 

Both of the cameras I own record onto a 32GB micro SD card. You have to get the right series for the best recording speed. I recommend the highest, series 10, it has the fastest transfer speed.

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I have the G1W which is the best inexpensive one you can buy. Only $50. Excellent low light capabilities. But it is widely counterfeited. Here is the legit source from China (took less than 2 weeks to get to me) and they sell higher end ones as well: http://www.ebay.com.hk/cln/estore009/G1W-Car-camera-best-video-quality-for-60/89271094013

 

And who knows, you might end up taking something like this amazing video:

 

 

 

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Thanks for adding the link zachw, really good deals there. I will have to try out some of their products.

 

Something to consider when purchasing a dash cam is that it has loop recording capabilities. So when your SD card is full it just loops and records from the beginning. Necessary for continuous recording, at least when using micro SD cards. At any time you can push a button and will lock a 10 minute segment that will not be recorded over. I have a FlexMedia V737W. http://www.flexmedia.com.tw/index.php/en/

 

These guys charge about double, but offer a lifetime warranty. They have some really good quality videos of the cameras in use.

http://securitysystems.com/CarCamera.htm?a=60286scroll down and check out some of the videos. There are customer videos that were submitted too. Very good quality with nighttime viewing as well. Where I am, there are no streetlights, pure darkness, and while driving the headlights provide enough light for a great view.

 

I have even half though about installing my own custom rig. WiFi through my phone, broadcast directly to my website live, with a fully robotic pan-tilt-zoom high tech security cam. Potentially I should be able to do it since the camera runs on 12V. Any pixel movement 360degrees around the camera, it will pan-tilt, zoom in and out and send me pictures to any phone I choose and I would be able to manually control the camera from anywhere on earth with a laptop as long as I can access internet. The AXIS 213PTZ IP camera. They cost well over a grand though. Full nighttime viewing in infrared.

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If it isn't "OFFICIAL" LEO video , is defendant video going to be allowed in the Courtroom ? 

 

I believe it would be allowed, but I suppose it could depend.

 

The reason I say it would have to be allowed is that video footage from stores and other places are used. If I was not allowed to use my video footage I would feel discriminated since Wal-Mart and other establishments are allowed to use theirs.

 

This may be a requirement to use it in court, that the video has a time and date stamp. The camera I have offers that.

 

I believe in most cases the video would be submittable.

 

When it comes to a traffic violation or fender bender the camera I have offers the option to play back directly from the camera.

 

The last little fender bender I got into, if I would have had a dash cam then, it would have saved me $2000.

 

In reality, we are doing LEO a big favor having dash cams. Whether it be policing the police or assisting in witnessing a crime committed in view of the camera.

 

I won't drive without a dash cam again. It is also fun and cool.

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Thanks for adding the link zachw, really good deals there. I will have to try out some of their products.

 

Something to consider when purchasing a dash cam is that it has loop recording capabilities. So when your SD card is full it just loops and records from the beginning. Necessary for continuous recording, at least when using micro SD cards. At any time you can push a button and will lock a 10 minute segment that will not be recorded over. I have a FlexMedia V737W. http://www.flexmedia.com.tw/index.php/en/

 

(snip)

 

The G1W does loop recording. Not sure about the lock capability, but it does have impact detection (they call it "g-sensor") which will prevent loop overwriting. (I assume that higher end dash cams have this feature.) I only found this out because someone wrote a better manual than the crappy one supplied with the unit. 

 

One thing about a dash cam is that - even though I haven't had need for video evidence (and hopefully won't ever) - I now miss it when I'm in a car that doesn't have one!

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i'd want to get the cameras that automatically upload video to the cloud, no chance of a recording going 'missing' or being 'damaged' by a pissed off cop. but uploading 1080p video on 3g or 4g might be a little much.

 

the solution would be to have a switch that you flip when you are being pulled over. that way you only need to upload the encounter as it happens live, instead of all those boring hours of driving around with nothign going on.

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Totally agree gg... hopefully we'd never need it in a dire way, but for sure there have been some cool vid's that have been posted capturing unanticipated events. Could of had a nice portfolio of some really stupid things iv done as well, like drive past a semi truck on fire & so hot that concrete was popping off the divider.

 

There was recently some chatter about the new corvette (I think) as they have a camera w audio inside where I guess they captured some mischief re valet abuse. Pretty sure there was concern re secretly recording people & whether or not that was legal. Maybe it is state by state as to its legality...?

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yes its state by state wiretap laws.

 

so in michigan i think it is legal to record if you are recording yourself and someone else talking. e.g. one person has to know its being recorded or something like that. you cant just record other people without permission in their homes/offices of course, that would be against the law.

 

the valet issue, you probably wouldnt be in your car, just a valet in your car... 

i think it falls under the same law that says you can videotape your own buildings/cars/property.

i dont think there would be a problem having a dash cam record your car when someone else is driving, although you may have to put a little sticker somewhere 'everything in this car is being recorded'. 

 

theres also other laws that say you can record stuff in public without getting permisison. so e.g. on a sidewalk or public road / public property you can record things freely.  of course a car is private property.

 

good question, what if your dash cam recorded a conversation the valet had in your car on his cell phone (which was on speakerphone)? that might run afoul of some law, somewhere.

 

ask a lawyer if you are curious.

(i am no lawyer, dont take this as legal advice)

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I believe it would be allowed, but I suppose it could depend.

 

The reason I say it would have to be allowed is that video footage from stores and other places are used. If I was not allowed to use my video footage I would feel discriminated since Wal-Mart and other establishments are allowed to use theirs.

 

This may be a requirement to use it in court, that the video has a time and date stamp. The camera I have offers that.

 

I believe in most cases the video would be submittable.

 

When it comes to a traffic violation or fender bender the camera I have offers the option to play back directly from the camera.

 

The last little fender bender I got into, if I would have had a dash cam then, it would have saved me $2000.

 

In reality, we are doing LEO a big favor having dash cams. Whether it be policing the police or assisting in witnessing a crime committed in view of the camera.

 

I won't drive without a dash cam again. It is also fun and cool.

 

With all due respect :

 

While I know that LEO uses surveillance video from business etc. , they only use it to help them find/convict a perpetrator . I do not believe , as you do , that anything that will contradict the LEO report of events will be allowed .

 

All you have to do is look how often these official recordings are lost , cameras not on etc. etc. etc. beside how they get away with murder . . .

 

I think it would be real nice if people showed more concern about the legislated royalty we have in this country . 

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I feel ya bob. I have to agree. However, there are some cases though, probably rare, where police have been punished due to submission of video from private entities whether it be from a civilian or private entity.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-paid-vacation-caught-multiple-times-stealing-uniform-armed/

 

Here is another rare example and is worth watching. This female cop rocks! She arrested one of her own after a high speed chase. By the looks of the video, she was ready to shoot him. She arrested him, then had to face the consequences. The police force illegally used police equipment to access her private information and received many threats and was stalked and pranked often. She had to relocate because of it. The video is worth the watch. It proves that most police departments are pretty much gangsters.

 

With all due respect to you men out there, maybe not in the past, but these days female cops seem to be doing better than the men when it comes to honesty and living up to their oath.

 

Another female cop who did the right thing. Her life was put in danger by not receiving proper back up and more after calling out illegal activities within the department.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/whistleblower-cop-calls-corruption-department-naturally-fired/Watch the video, it is worth taking the time. 

 

Again, I agree with you. We are basically discriminated, citizens vs authority. Even when they are caught red handed on video, they can still get away with "murder". Seems like 9 out of 10 and that is when it is caught on video. Like a huge gang that always backs each other up. Nothing more than organized thugs.

 

Even if the dash cam does not help. It would still be nice to have the video and posting it everywhere. Public support and public awareness. Priceless.

 

Like I mentioned previously, if I had a dash cam in the past, it would have saved me $2K. The officer would have been most pleased to be able to see video footage of the incident. I was at a dead stop and the other vehicle rammed right into me. They said I hit them, total lie! How was the officer to know who was being truthful? He was not able to give either one of us a traffic violation. I can happily say this, karma played a big role on this one. I lost $2K on an old beater, the guy who hit me lost out on a brand new vehicle! He suffered more damage than I did!

 

Just a little bit more proof that most of the police force are nothing more than just thugs working for a money hungry business. The business gets the money, and the police get the power to get away with whatever they want, with back up. This article is worth the read.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/nypd-ironically-proving-police-work-completely-unnecessary/

 

 

Whether the dash cam helps or not, whether I can use a video in court or not, I like the idea of having the audio and video footage of the incident. The dash cam is just the beginning.

 

I have seen articles and video footage where the recording did not help legally, but it did make a difference, it had an impact on everyday citizens. The offenses against citizens by LEO is really starting to make us angry. The more we can share of the wrongdoings, the closer it gets us to solving the problem. At the very least, it makes more people aware.

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