Seriously!

[Cap'N Kush]

I was thinking. This has been on my mind for a while. An I feel like a few of you on hear feel the same way. Not every one. But a few.

 

Theres so many people that are just useing the medical Marijuana system to make $ it's disgusting. Like these people are totaly immoral.

 

What kind of person, would have two pataints plus themselves and a rotation of 12 plants, = 12 clones, 12 veg, and 12 flower. There harvesting like a pound / pound and Halph a month off 2 1000 watt light lights.

 

If between them, and there pataints, they only use maybe a halph pound. What gives them the right to sell the the left over pound every month for like $ 3000.00 DOLLARS. Like what type of person, would even consider that. They would halph to be the lowest low life's EVER! DIRTY DRUG DEALERS, are what they are. Totaly takeing advatage of there pataints. Makeing a profit off of the backs of sick people, it's disgusting. I just can't BELEAVE IT. These are not the people the law was suppose to protect!

 

That Marijuana should be destroyed or they shouldn't grow so much! Not sold to make money. It's against the LAW and WRONG! It's SO WRONG, its immoral! An against the LAW!

 

This medical Marijuana act wasn't meant, for people to be selling weed. It was meant for sick people to smoke for free, and grow. All that excess Marijuana is WRONG.

 

That's a fact not my opion, and it's RIGHT! An if you don't agree with me. Your stupid and a BAD person.

Edited January 25, 2015 by Cap'N Kush

[Cap'N Kush]

An you probably sell marijuana. Which IS WRONG! Becouse it's against the LAW!

[Cap'N Kush]

Smokeing marijuana is OK, Growing marijuana is OK.

 

Selling marijuana to make money is WRONG and immoral becouse it's against the LAW!

 

Eating it in brownies is WRONG to, if there made with butter. Becouse it's against the LAW and anything against the LAW is immoral and wrong. An if you don't agree your a drug dealing criminal! But if you don't use butter, it's OK!

[+Malamute]

Being a patient and using marijuana is against the law too ya know.

[Cap'N Kush]

Also, useing grinders is against the law, becouse grinders collect keef, and keef is BAD, becouse it's against the law!

[Cap'N Kush]

But that's ok! It's just federal law!

[trichcycler]

:camp:for the love of Beavis, I hope you're being facetious !

 

"12 plants, = 12 clones, 12 veg, and 12 flower. There harvesting like a pound / pound and half a month off 2 1000 watt light lights. " = 36 plant." in rotation, not 12.

 

The number of plants a grower has staged in the garden has little to do with the amount harvested on a regular, perpetual schedule. Like maybe a grower has 40 plants in flower, but only two of them are ready at a time each month/week for instance. I could care less what others do with their extra plants, and see it as a non moral issue, like speeding, sampling a grape at the grocery store.....

 

 

peace out

[Romen]

Hey Cap'N Kush What are the MMJ laws in Cydonia? That's on Mars right?

[Quadcarl]

This cap'n Kush sounds more like a MADD member or a middle schooler with an agenda. I'd advise re-reading your posts and edit them for spelling at least if you plan to be taken seriously.

[Willy]

 

 

 

. I could care less what others do with their extra plants, and see it as a non moral issue, like speeding, sampling a grape at the grocery store.....

 

 

peace out

Grocery Grape 'Sampling' Leads To Assault Charges

WCCO TV NEWS ^ | 9-22-2006 | Lisa Kiava 

Posted on 9/22/2006, 11:13:45 AM by Cagey

(WCCO) St. Paul Typically the biggest problem in the produce aisle of the supermarket is finding fruit that isn't ripe. But there was a fist fight last week at a St. Paul Rainbow Foods store.

Tameca Griffin of Minneapolis is accused of becoming violent after being asked not to snack on grapes. Police say Griffin hit an off-duty police officer who was working as a security guard.

How many can you eat before it's considered criminal? Most people we asked said one or two is fine but any more than that is stealing.

"I don't even know why I do it. Probably just because I give the baby one, and I'll take one too,” said a woman shopping for groceries in St. Paul, who did not want to give her name.

But it's apparently because Griffin was snacking on unbought grapes that she wound up facing felonies.

The incident started when a female police officer asked Griffin to stop snacking without paying. According to the complaint, Griffin became hostile and pushed her chest against the female officer and screamed.

Griffin punched the cop in the face, fought and injured the cop, according to the court document.

"It's conceivable that there was a concussion, some of her hair was pulled out, and bumps and bruises,” said Tom Walsh, St. Paul Police spokesperson.

One manager at the Rainbow says his store has security, in part, to keep snacking from going overboard. The National Grocers Association says really greedy grazing is rare, and most retailers will tolerate customers who can't resist just a taste or two.

A police spokesperson says he's not sure how many grapes Griffin was eating when the officer confronted her. Griffin faces charges that include fourth degree assault.

[AbominableDro-Man]

That's a fact not my opion, and it's RIGHT! An if you don't agree with me. Your stupid and a BAD person.

 

You should be taking up a position in government or religion with that thought process. 

 

-Edited out-

Edited January 26, 2015 by AbominableDro-Man

[YesMichigan]

Grocery Grape 'Sampling' Leads To Assault Charges

 

It has never crossed my mind to "sample" a grape at the grocery store. Most importantly I want to wash them before eating them but also because I haven't paid for them and thus it is stealing. They can't weight it at checkout if they're in your stomach, unlike opening a bag of chips that you pay for at the end anyway. The true test of character is what you do when you think no one is looking.

Edited January 25, 2015 by YesMichigan

[phaquetoo]

I was thinking. This has been on my mind for a while. An I feel like a few of you on hear feel the same way. Not every one. But a few.

 

Theres so many people that are just useing the medical Marijuana system to make $ it's disgusting. Like these people are totaly immoral.

 

What kind of person, would have two pataints plus themselves and a rotation of 12 plants, = 12 clones, 12 veg, and 12 flower. There harvesting like a pound / pound and Halph a month off 2 1000 watt light lights.

 

If between them, and there pataints, they only use maybe a halph pound. What gives them the right to sell the the left over pound every month for like $ 3000.00 DOLLARS. Like what type of person, would even consider that. They would halph to be the lowest low life's EVER! DIRTY DRUG DEALERS, are what they are. Totaly takeing advatage of there pataints. Makeing a profit off of the backs of sick people, it's disgusting. I just can't BELEAVE IT. These are not the people the law was suppose to protect!

 

That Marijuana should be destroyed or they shouldn't grow so much! Not sold to make money. It's against the LAW and WRONG! It's SO WRONG, its immoral! An against the LAW!

 

This medical Marijuana act wasn't meant, for people to be selling weed. It was meant for sick people to smoke for free, and grow. All that excess Marijuana is WRONG.

 

That's a fact not my opion, and it's RIGHT! An if you don't agree with me. Your stupid and a BAD person.

Go back under the rock you came from, and while you are there read the law again, that is if you ever have,

 

A c.g may charge the pt for services not the mm, so the services are growing it, delivering it, getting their electric bill to a normal price  like it was before they started growing for nothing!

 

where does it say pt's can smoke for free? "it was ment for sick people to smoke for free and grow, that is fact not fiction"  that is total fiction and you realy need to be pi ss ed at the person who screwed you not the rest of us!

 

Grow your own, you will see how free it is, your  old lady will be bit chiing about the electric bill, the fans, lights , nutes and all of the other expenses that come out of a growers house hold income, and you think we should pay for your meds,,,,I say get back on your rx's you dont deserve a good c.g, and Im not lumping any one, Im lumping you, go back under your rock and shut the phaq up!

[imiubu]

I laughed out loud for real at OP's posts.

[phaquetoo]

Also, useing grinders is against the law, becouse grinders collect keef, and keef is BAD, becouse it's against the law!

They have profesionals you can talk to and medicine that may make you think clearer!

[Wild Bill]

I think you're confused about the distinction between "right and wrong" and "legal and illegal". If you disobey an immoral law then what you do is "illegal" but not "immoral".

 

On the other hand there are any number of things that are "immoral" but not "illegal", look most major corporations.

[trichcycler]

I'm still holding out for the op, believing op was just starting a discussion, and not actually believing what he wrote. 

[Lancy]

To anyone that doesn't understand this is intended as humor, I have some land I want to tell you about.

[Kingdiamond]

I believe that he was being sarcastic about the current state of the law and the ridiculous restrictions.

[Cap'N Kush]

At the current state of affairs!

 

The only way a pataint can smoke for FREE is if the care giver breaks the law!

 

That seems counter productive.

 

An yes the law, says a CG can be compensated. But unfortuntly just becouse the law says one thing, doesn't mean it acualty is like that. It seems to me that things work quite differently.

 

This system works, completely backwards.

 

I know a lot of CG's, and I have yet to meet one that has pataints that pay for meds. The comman practice is Paitaints say, you can grow my twelve plants, give me a ounce to 2.5 ounce's a month and sell the rest.

 

This rubs me the wrong way.

 

Some one has to pay, for it to be grown. An the current system, force's CG's to sell on the black markit. Thats the problem. It's not suppose to work like that, but it does. The law is not wrigten for it to work like that, but that's the way it seem to be working.

 

If for some off chance a CG has worked out were it works legally and has pataints help with the costs. More power two you.

 

Anyways that was my point. Take it how you want?

Edited January 25, 2015 by Cap'N Kush

[Cap'N Kush]

And What really ruffles my feathers.

There were ALOT of members on this board promoting that very same system back in 08.

 

With statements about, plants yielding 4-8 ounces. An the price of MEDS. Back then I would make a statement. Similier to what grass match pointed out, doesn't matter how many plants you have, you could have 12 small plants that yeild a quarter ounce each, and I would get reemed.

 

Idk seems to me like yall got some fixen to do. Imvho it was your guys fault its like this.

 

An a side note, every one always beatchs about people makeing money. Well SOMEONE has two! it takes time and money to grow. Would you rather it be big Pharma or a CG? A guy who puts his all into, and comes back with the best product on the MARKIT. Or some commercial SHWAG grow, that is one step up from catnip.

 

That's my rant.

 

I'll go back under my rock like Phaq suggest.

Peace

[trichcycler]

interesting. I don't know of a caregiver who does not legally collect money for his garden expenses. Selling to a dispensary is risky business and my patients wouldn't want to be involved with a person doing so.

 

I've only heard of the "give me this for free and do whatever you want with the rest" arrangement...from disgruntled patients, time and time again. Those arrangements are ridiculous and smell of  greed and drug deals. I don't judge the players, until they whine of their troubles.  These types of people, both patients and caregivers doing this today are making the scene more confusing for real registrants. We do not compete with anyone. Black market deals have always existed, I hope the black market players stay there. Patients seeking legal qualified caregivers are ones who wish to avoid that game, and with a little patient/cg interview the issue can be avoided largely. 

 

If op wishes to change the current status quo, op should begin at home, with a sound legal caregiver to patient relationship, and a stellar garden of ops own imo.

 

 

hang with new people, ones who do not break the laws you speak of, change your reality for a more positive result.

 

peace

peace and love

[trichcycler]

my patients smoke for free with each delivery. the more they request the more they smoke for free.

not all of us are money grubbers. don't get me wrong, I like the things money buys too. Like that new fangled growing pot, some new grow bulbs finally, maybe

a new white schmock to wear this year while gardening. I splurged once and bought a cement mixer to process my soil, otherwise I would have been unable to continue

my service for the back breaking mixing.  One year I had 375 buck in the grow kitty at the end of the year and bought some more blown in insulation for my ceiling. I reduced my electric bill and spread the wealth generously. More often than not my patients give me more money than we agreed on, and I reciprocate with more bud gifts.

 

be the change you wish to see.

[phaquetoo]

At the current state of affairs!

 

The only way a pataint can smoke for FREE is if the care giver breaks the law!

 

That seems counter productive.

 

An yes the law, says a CG can be compensated. But unfortuntly just becouse the law says one thing, doesn't mean it acualty is like that. It seems to me that things work quite differently.

 

This system works, completely backwards.

 

I know a lot of CG's, and I have yet to meet one that has pataints that pay for meds. The comman practice is Paitaints say, you can grow my twelve plants, give me a ounce to 2.5 ounce's a month and sell the rest.

 

This rubs me the wrong way.

 

Some one has to pay, for it to be grown. An the current system, force's CG's to sell on the black markit. Thats the problem. It's not suppose to work like that, but it does. The law is not wrigten for it to work like that, but that's the way it seem to be working.

 

If for some off chance a CG has worked out were it works legally and has pataints help with the costs. More power two you.

 

Anyways that was my point. Take it how you want?

Why didnt you open your post with this comment?

 

When I signed my c.g there were despenses every where, he gave me a plant about once a month, alot of times it had 6 oz's on it, I signed my lady up to be my pt so I could be her c.g and not be over my limit when I got my FREE plant, and I also wanted to grow some that was dif from what my c.g was growing!

 

He was able to take overages to a despense and make his money, he also thought p2p and c.g to any pt was legal, I never beleived any of them were legal, they are not in the law as written and voted on by the people of this state, there for it ilegal, im not one to think if it isnt in the law it must be legal,

 

my point being is my c.g had a place to make his cash, he spent a fortune on alot of lights, he had a full card and he made enough to not have to work, he moved next door to his elderly parents, his mom just died, and he is still there to be with his father, and now he has no where to get rid of overages, I have been paying 200 a zip for 2 yrs now, he dropped a few pts because they refused to start paying him for his services, I have no prob paying him for his services and his awsome quality meds! I have purchase my own grow equipment and did all the b.s that goes with it, grew several yeilds and shut down because of mites and we couldnt afford to get my lady legal when it was time again, so it made it so I cant grow, because I wont take my grow rights away from my c.g, he has been a saint compared to alot of others I know and one I actualy signed once,

 

Pt's have to pay for their rx's if their ins doesnt cover it, and ins dont cover mm, so we as pt's and c.g's have to charge our pt's what c.g and pt agree on, and the free meds are gone, if/when they make despense legal you will want a c.g instead of paying the price a despense will charge you.  once again I was getting free plants from my c.g and a despense in pinnconning was charging people 38 bucks a gram for what I was getting free and others were paying 200 an oz for!

 

Now you have 2 choices, you get a c.g to grow for you, or you grow it your self, if your lucky enough to pay high priced despenses that are still around have at it, that is not a choice for me!

Edited January 26, 2015 by phaquetoo

[phaquetoo]

It has never crossed my mind to "sample" a grape at the grocery store. Most importantly I want to wash them before eating them but also because I haven't paid for them and thus it is stealing. They can't weight it at checkout if they're in your stomach, unlike opening a bag of chips that you pay for at the end anyway. The true test of character is what you do when you think no one is looking.

me and my lady eat a bag of chips at wallmart all the time, we always have the empty bag in our cart and pay for it when we check out,,,,a friend of mine used to take her mother with her to wallmarts so she could get exercise while daughter shopped, mom was drinking a bottle of wine a few times a week while at wallmarts, she got arrested and had to go to court lmao, I think it is funny as heck her mom is like in her 80's and she def knew she was doing wrong, I had to go watch the court date for schits and giggles, she got fined 500 bucks and a yr probation and she is not allowed at that wallmart any longer!

 

Peace