Police Confiscate Marijuana Plants In Pittsfield Township

[t-pain]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/04/police_confiscate_marijuana_pl.html

 

Police previously determined the location had a possible grow operation and ultimately seized a number of marijuana plants for failure to comply with the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act, officials said.

 

seems strange to be able to seize plants , as the law says plants are not to be seized.

 

(h) Any marihuana, marihuana paraphernalia, or licit property that is possessed, owned, or used in connection with the medical use of marihuana, as allowed under this act, or acts incidental to such use, shall not be seized or forfeited.

[blackhorse]

Washtenaw County?

[AbominableDro-Man]

T pain, can you cite the full part that's from? Not just (h) but which number? Im not hip on law lingo so im not quite sure how to ask lol

Edited April 16, 2015 by AbominableDro-Man

[t-pain]

droman, you havent memorized and printed out a copy of the act? heh.

 

thats section 4 h of the mmma. mcl 333.26424 (h)

http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-Initiated-Law-1-of-2008

[AbominableDro-Man]

Printed out yes, but memorized far from it.  Thanks for the link 

[bobandtorey]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/04/police_confiscate_marijuana_pl.html

 

Police previously determined the location had a possible grow operation and ultimately seized a number of marijuana plants for failure to comply with the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act, officials said.

 

seems strange to be able to seize plants , as the law says plants are not to be seized.

 

(h) Any marihuana, marihuana paraphernalia, or licit property that is possessed, owned, or used in connection with the medical use of marihuana, as allowed under this act, or acts incidental to such use, shall not be seized or forfeited.

Thanks

 

As we can see things are not as we would like them to be and most still think the Law is working just fine and it's only 1% not working ?

[phaquetoo]

T pain, can you cite the full part that's from? Not just (h) but which number? Im not hip on law lingo so im not quite sure how to ask lol

Bro I suggest you get on the lara site and read the whole law, either book mark it or print it and read it several times, If you have a 4th grade education and can read you will understand the law as written and voted on, also any changes that happened since our law. Like I beleive they changed a part of the law where if you get fired for using mm at home and they urine screen you at work and you test pos for thc they can fire you but you can collect unemployment now,,,,,to me that is big!

 

Personaly I want it to be legal for all, but I Dont want the medical part taken off, we can have both, the only dif would be for rec use you have to purchase it some where and for pt's and c.g's we can still grow our 12 plants!

 

any one who is a pt or c.g should read the law and read it again so you know if you are within the law no matter what you do,  Me I dont want leo in my life any longer.  for one thing Im afraid of what I may do if Im confronted by any pigs concerning mm. I am old enough to decide if I want to drink, smoke or toke!

 

I got on mm because I was on methadone 10 mg 4 times daily and xanax 1mg 4 times daily, among other things like muscle relaxers!  I got a traffic violation and wound up doing 10 days in jail, which was realy only 8 days, they wouldnt let me take the meds I was on for over 12 yrs, I dont remember what realy happened while I was in jail, I only remember like the first 2 days and the rest is so confusing I dont know if I was dreaming or what,,,,but I went to one jail and 8 days later I was picked up in a different jail, within 15 mins of being picked up by my lady I was in I.C.U,,,,,,,,,I have no clue how I got there, when I woke up 18 hrs later my lady and my dad were there, I almost died, my dr. said I should have died, Im 52 yrs old and I will do mm for the rest of my life whether its legal or not, I should never have been cut off of my medications, I brought 12 yrs worth of medical records to jail and all of my meds, they gave me nothing and just kept moving me around becuase I was being a problem to other inmates (so i was told) I dont wish that on any one!

 

Follow the law as best as you can, and never let a pig in your home, if they have a search warrant just get all of your family together and be laying on the floor with your hands on your heads and if you have any pets have them lay with you, and let leo bust your stuff down and not shoot up your house and maybe kill your kids or your pets or you!

 

I hate pigs!

 

Peace

Edited April 20, 2015 by phaquetoo

[trichcycler]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/04/police_confiscate_marijuana_pl.html

 

Police previously determined the location had a possible grow operation and ultimately seized a number of marijuana plants for failure to comply with the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act, officials said.

 

seems strange to be able to seize plants , as the law says plants are not to be seized.

 

(h) Any marihuana, marihuana paraphernalia, or licit property that is possessed, owned, or used in connection with the medical use of marihuana, as allowed under this act, or acts incidental to such use, shall not be seized or forfeited.

can you think of any crime that could be committed by a carded grower which could rightfully result in the confiscation of the marijuana plants in his possession ?

Edited April 20, 2015 by grassmatch

[Willy]

And the pigs have begun to follow our law/will when?  

[t-pain]

As we can see things are not as we would like them to be and most still think the Law is working just fine and it's only 1% not working ?

stop being part of the 1% bob!

 

can you come up with a number bob? is it more than 1500 patients/caregivers who got to court/arrested?

[bobandtorey]

i have no # i am only typing a number  that has been said many time by Malamute

 

can you think of any crime that could be committed by a carded grower which could rightfully result in the confiscation of the marijuana plants in his possession ?

Thanks again

 

maybe a posted note of some kind 

 

[bobandtorey]

stop being part of the 1% bob!

 

can you come up with a number bob? is it more than 1500 patients/caregivers who got to court/arrested?

Am sorry i don't understand what number you would like     is it  how many patients and caregivers got arrested from 2009 till now?

[t-pain]

yes, the number of patients and caregivers arrested since 2009. what is your best guess of that number?

Edited April 20, 2015 by t-pain

[bobandtorey]

Thanks

I will give you a number but first ask yourself this as you know the State or Counties will not give anyone a number me and Eric tried to do a freedom of info act on some of the County's around the State asking the same things   we all want to know 

 

And how would someone count who was raided and got arrested  ? Maybe the ones that left a door open ? Or someone who wrote a posted Note ? And how about the ones that sold cannabis on craigslist  to a cared person as they do in a shop near us all do they count ? 

 

i guess my point would be let everyone have a Jury here their  own stories and let them say who is and is not legal the way it should Be and the way it was before Law 1 of 2008    Imho

[AbominableDro-Man]

Bro I suggest you get on the lara site and read the whole law, either book mark it or print it and read it several times

You must have missed the part where I stated I did indeed have it printed off, only not memorized. It sucks that all of that happened to you,I wouldn't wish those events on anyone either.

 

I guess I've just been lucky thus far in my life in never having been involved with the law. I even keep my grow within very strict legal parameters.

 

My apologies if I seem unwise in how I ask some questions, I'm simply not always in the correct mindset for posing inquiries- darn new pheno of Plushberry is pretty potent and confusing stuff.

 

 

I suppose I could see someone having their plants taken if they were over count- but in that case I would say that only the amount that they are over should be up as forfeiture if that's the way it had to be.

[bobandtorey]

You must have missed the part where I stated I did indeed have it printed off, only not memorized. It sucks that all of that happened to you,I wouldn't wish those events on anyone either.

 

I guess I've just been lucky thus far in my life in never having been involved with the law. I even keep my grow within very strict legal parameters.

 

My apologies if I seem unwise in how I ask some questions, I'm simply not always in the correct mindset for posing inquiries- darn new pheno of Plushberry is pretty potent and confusing stuff.

 

 

I suppose I could see someone having their plants taken if they were over count- but in that case I would say that only the amount that they are over should be up as forfeiture if that's the way it had to be.

Thanks for your input

 

Leo has counted branch's as hole plants they have even counted a whole pan of brownies as a pound of cannabis one person i know is in the Supreme Count right now because of a Posted Note 

 

I guess my point is again the police still doesn't like people growing cannabis and when they can break down a door with a warrant because of someone smelling cannabis coming from a sick persons home to me that is out of control 

 

Sorry it's only my own opinion

[bobandtorey]

yes, the number of patients and caregivers arrested since 2009. what is your best guess of that number?

Are you coming to the PGT show April 23 ?

[t-pain]

i might show up. definite possibility.

Edited April 21, 2015 by t-pain

[GregS]

 

i have no # i am only typing a number  that has been said many time by Malamute

 

Thanks again

 

maybe a posted note of some kind 

 

 

I'd sure like to see that number. Howabout it Mal?

[trichcycler]

I think the only people getting hassled in the program are associates of Bob's. This may skew his perception of the scope of arrests/raids.

stop growing more than allowed, lock the doors, don't sell on craigslist, why?  because the Act you voted for says so!  Stay in the 1% racket, or step up and follow the Act for best results.

[bobandtorey]

Stop growing more than allowed ? 

 

Thank you but i think you have missed the point again so here you go

 

(h) Any marihuana, marihuana paraphernalia, or licit property that is possessed, owned, or used in connection with the medical use of marihuana, as allowed under this act, or acts incidental to such use, shall not be seized or forfeited.

[trichcycler]

lic·it means;




not forbidden; lawful.


it's only "licit" if its within the Act.

You dig man?

So like if you possessed plants that were being grown "illicitly" as in for any illegal purpose outside of the scope of the Act, like for the neighborhood dispensary for example, maybe the one affiliated with in the article even, then those plants are ILLICIT, not LICIT, NOT protected within the Act, because they were outside of it in the first place. no?

If you allowed buddies who are not allowed by the Act to be in your garden room, the plants within that room may now be illicit plants, because your behavior was outside of the protections of the Act. no?

Today I know of nobody who was following the Act that was denied the Act protections. Seems they all may have your number though.

 

scaring patients into believing the police are going to hassle them just because they follow the Act is irresponsible reporting. Provide details of those following our Act, while being raided or arrested ?

Edited April 21, 2015 by grassmatch

[phaquetoo]

You must have missed the part where I stated I did indeed have it printed off, only not memorized. It sucks that all of that happened to you,I wouldn't wish those events on anyone either.

 

I guess I've just been lucky thus far in my life in never having been involved with the law. I even keep my grow within very strict legal parameters.

 

My apologies if I seem unwise in how I ask some questions, I'm simply not always in the correct mindset for posing inquiries- darn new pheno of Plushberry is pretty potent and confusing stuff.

 

 

I suppose I could see someone having their plants taken if they were over count- but in that case I would say that only the amount that they are over should be up as forfeiture if that's the way it had to be.

I ment no harm or foul, It realy is good to know the law, and even I know if you know the law it dont mean you wont get arrested, I guess the best advise I can give is read the law and loose lips sink ships!

 

Peace

[pic book]

can you think of any crime that could be committed by a carded grower which could rightfully result in the confiscation of the marijuana plants in his possession ?

at unusual times and circumstances, none is needed.

detroit police narcotics officers who took my legal numbers of plants and product and scale with a questionable search warrant last may 5, are now: 

one, dead by suicide, last august after suspension by the dpd and an FBI investigation.

four others federally indicted.  they appear in court downtown in june.

point is, it is not necessary to do anything.  bad officers and bad luck and a vengeful would-be patent suffice at rare, rare times.

some victims reported it when this crew robbed them.  I didn't, still won't.

Except for a carded patient being hit with this kind of lottery-in-win-in-reverse, most people have no probs...i am disturbed at the oft-expressed attitude by cardholders on numbers:  i'm ok, i'm under 99, and they look right past the state regs and only fear the feds.

Edited April 21, 2015 by pic book

[ozzrokk]

I will say it again if ANYONE believes that some leo would not bust a COMPLETELY COMPLIANT patient and not try to circumvent this law then you are completely living in  a fantasy land..................