Planet Green Trees Radio/sign The Petition Tonight!

[jamieuke]

Special public broadcast at Omara's restaurant 2555 12 Mile Rd Berkley, MI Tonight!

Listen LIVE 8-10 pm EST at www.planetgreentrees.com or call in 347-326-9626

 

Hosted by attorney Michael Komorn from Komorn Law and Chad from Birmingham Compassion

 

Contributions from Rick Thompson from The Compassion Chronicles, Jamie Lowell from Third Coast

 

Tonight-

 

MILegalize kicks off the campaign to legalize in 2016 on the steps of the Capitol building at 1:00 today- Planet Green Trees Radio will cover this event, discuss the campaign and have petitions for signatures at tonight's broadcast at Omara's restaurant in Berkley!

 

We will also be joined by the Mocc CompassionClub along with Chad from Birmingham Compassion to discuss the importance and value of having a network of people- mainly medical marijuana patients and caregivers- to help with information, support, patient/caregiver connections and the many other important functions of such groups.

 

Jim Powers Michigan Parents for Compassion co- founder and board member of the ballot group known as MILegalize.

 

Retired police officer and one of LEAP's (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition) newest members- Steve Miller

 

And- regular guest and friend of the show attorney David Rudoi of Rudoi Law, Eric Gunnels Thetford Twp Trustee and T-Pain who continues to provide much inappropriate probing- even after you thought he couldn't do it anymore.

 

Michael's rant, news, current events and more!

[t-pain]

Yeah, petition time

[shishka]

Because the legislature would never hijack this one...

[bobandtorey]

Because the legislature would never hijack this one...

 

 

Or how about can they ? 

 

Can Lansing do anything to a peoples petition ? and does it take the Governor to sign it ?

[+Malamute]

A Governor does not have to sign it. They can sign it, but even if they don't, it still goes into effect.

 

The Legislature can pass an initiative which then allows it to go into effect 90 days after the end of the legislative session, during which time, one may get signatures to put it to a referendum vote or the legislature may vote to put it to a referendum vote(which makes no sense except lesser requirement for legislative tampering later on) or the legislature can amend it with a 3/4 majority anytime beforeit goes into effect thus giving the legislature a little more time to deal with it. 

 

 

Anyhow,

 

An "Initiative" is actually an "Initiation of Legislation".

 

Michigan Constitution Sec 9

 

 

Text of Section 9:

Initiative and referendum; limitations; appropriations; petitions

The people reserve to themselves the power to propose laws and to enact and reject laws, called the initiative, and the power to approve or reject laws enacted by the legislature, called the referendum. The power of initiative extends only to laws which the legislature may enact under this constitution. The power of referendum does not extend to acts making appropriations for state institutions or to meet deficiencies in state funds and must be invoked in the manner prescribed by law within 90 days following the final adjournment of the legislative session at which the law was enacted. To invoke the initiative or referendum, petitions signed by a number of registered electors, not less than eight percent for initiative and five percent for referendum of the total vote cast for all candidates for governor at the last preceding general election at which a governor was elected shall be required.^[1]

 

Referendum, Approval No law as to which the power of referendum properly has been invoked shall be effective thereafter unless approved by a majority of the electors voting thereon at the next general election.^[1]

 

Initiative; duty of legislature, referendum Any law proposed by initiative petition shall be either enacted or rejected by the legislature without change or amendment within 40 session days from the time such petition is received by the legislature. If any law proposed by such petition shall be enacted by the legislature it shall be subject to referendum, as hereinafter provided.^[1]

 

Legislative rejection of initiated measure; different measure; submission to people If the law so proposed is not enacted by the legislature within the 40 days, the state officer authorized by law shall submit such proposed law to the people for approval or rejection at the next general election. The legislature may reject any measure so proposed by initiative petition and propose a different measure upon the same subject by a yea and nay vote upon separate roll calls, and in such event both measures shall be submitted by such state officer to the electors for approval or rejection at the next general election.^[1]

 

Initiative or referendum law; effective date, veto, amendment and repeal Any law submitted to the people by either initiative or referendum petition and approved by a majority of the votes cast thereon at any election shall take effect 10 days after the date of the official declaration of the vote. No law initiated or adopted by the people shall be subject to the veto power of the governor, and no law adopted by the people at the polls under the initiative provisions of this section shall be amended or repealed, except by a vote of the electors unless otherwise provided in the initiative measure or by three-fourths of the members elected to and serving in each house of the legislature. Laws approved by the people under the referendum provision of this section may be amended by the legislature at any subsequent session thereof. If two or more measures approved by the electors at the same election conflict, that receiving the highest affirmative vote shall prevail.^[1]

Legislative implementation The legislature shall implement the provisions of this section.^[1]

 

History: Const. 1963, Art. II, §9, Eff. Jan. 1, 1964. Constitutionality: A law proposed by initiative petition which is enacted by the Legislature without change or amendment within forty days of its reception takes effect ninety days after the end of the session in which it was enacted unless two-thirds of the members of each house of the Legislature vote to give it immediate effect. Frey v. Department of Management and Budget, 429 Mich. 315, 414 N.W.2d 873 (1987). Former Constitution: See Const. 1908, Art. V, §1.

[Restorium2]

Or how about can they ? 

 

Can Lansing do anything to a peoples petition ? and does it take the Governor to sign it ?

Of course they can. With a 75% vote, which is very possible. Have you forgotten the Medical Marihuana Act of 2008 and all it's teaching moments? Same rules apply. Same law makers apply. Same governor and attorney general telling them what they want. Why would you think it to be different? Anyone involved in any aspect of law making, including the people who get signatures, should know the basics.

[bobandtorey]

A Governor does not have to sign it. They can sign it, but even if they don't, it still goes into effect.

 

The Legislature can pass an initiative which then allows it to go into effect 90 days after the end of the legislative session, during which time, one may get signatures to put it to a referendum vote or the legislature may vote to put it to a referendum vote(which makes no sense except lesser requirement for legislative tampering later on) or the legislature can amend it with a 3/4 majority anytime beforeit goes into effect thus giving the legislature a little more time to deal with it. 

 

 

Anyhow,

 

An "Initiative" is actually an "Initiation of Legislation".

 

Michigan Constitution Sec 9

 

 

Text of Section 9:

Initiative and referendum; limitations; appropriations; petitions

The people reserve to themselves the power to propose laws and to enact and reject laws, called the initiative, and the power to approve or reject laws enacted by the legislature, called the referendum. The power of initiative extends only to laws which the legislature may enact under this constitution. The power of referendum does not extend to acts making appropriations for state institutions or to meet deficiencies in state funds and must be invoked in the manner prescribed by law within 90 days following the final adjournment of the legislative session at which the law was enacted. To invoke the initiative or referendum, petitions signed by a number of registered electors, not less than eight percent for initiative and five percent for referendum of the total vote cast for all candidates for governor at the last preceding general election at which a governor was elected shall be required.^[1]

 

Referendum, Approval No law as to which the power of referendum properly has been invoked shall be effective thereafter unless approved by a majority of the electors voting thereon at the next general election.^[1]

 

Initiative; duty of legislature, referendum Any law proposed by initiative petition shall be either enacted or rejected by the legislature without change or amendment within 40 session days from the time such petition is received by the legislature. If any law proposed by such petition shall be enacted by the legislature it shall be subject to referendum, as hereinafter provided.^[1]

 

Legislative rejection of initiated measure; different measure; submission to people If the law so proposed is not enacted by the legislature within the 40 days, the state officer authorized by law shall submit such proposed law to the people for approval or rejection at the next general election. The legislature may reject any measure so proposed by initiative petition and propose a different measure upon the same subject by a yea and nay vote upon separate roll calls, and in such event both measures shall be submitted by such state officer to the electors for approval or rejection at the next general election.^[1]

 

Initiative or referendum law; effective date, veto, amendment and repeal Any law submitted to the people by either initiative or referendum petition and approved by a majority of the votes cast thereon at any election shall take effect 10 days after the date of the official declaration of the vote. No law initiated or adopted by the people shall be subject to the veto power of the governor, and no law adopted by the people at the polls under the initiative provisions of this section shall be amended or repealed, except by a vote of the electors unless otherwise provided in the initiative measure or by three-fourths of the members elected to and serving in each house of the legislature. Laws approved by the people under the referendum provision of this section may be amended by the legislature at any subsequent session thereof. If two or more measures approved by the electors at the same election conflict, that receiving the highest affirmative vote shall prevail.^[1]

Legislative implementation The legislature shall implement the provisions of this section.^[1]

 

History: Const. 1963, Art. II, §9, Eff. Jan. 1, 1964. Constitutionality: A law proposed by initiative petition which is enacted by the Legislature without change or amendment within forty days of its reception takes effect ninety days after the end of the session in which it was enacted unless two-thirds of the members of each house of the Legislature vote to give it immediate effect. Frey v. Department of Management and Budget, 429 Mich. 315, 414 N.W.2d 873 (1987). Former Constitution: See Const. 1908, Art. V, §1.

 

 

Thank you i wanted the people here and myself to know 

 

Vote for nothing and you will get the MRC Law IMHO