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Purchased (2) Cannatonic #4 and (1) Star Tonic clones and planted about July 1. Star Tonic was about 4" tall and now is 18". Cannatonic was about 10" tall and now 14". Not sure why cannatonic has not grown as quickly.

 

Now I am starting to wonder if they will make anything. I'm thinking another 3 weeks and they will start flowering. They need to grow a lot soon.

 

Guess if we get an ounce per plant, we will be lucky.

 

Soil is really good, but will start giving extra nutes once a week to help them along.

 

Any suggestions?

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GM: We talked about this in another post, but I couldn't find it. I do have other larger plants that haven't started to flower, thinking in 2-3 more weeks.

 

Just these high CBD plants are so small and season is getting late. No option of moving inside and finish.

 

Had outside plants last year and they finished up the first week of October. Hoping the larger plants will finish the same way.

 

Don't they make a canvas material to cover the larger plants?

 

Thanks TP and GM

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So I go out and cover at 6 pm and uncover after dark, the plants should start to flower after a couple weeks? I can do this for the rest of August without a problem.

 

Will look for some large trash bags for the tall plants. Small plants will be easy to cover.

 

I'll keep you informed of progress. Thanks

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nope. you'll completely darken them 24 hours, no peaks, no nothing, for at least the full 24 hours. I've left them covered for 48 hours in the past, indoors and out.  I use those contractor garbage bags for the thick tough black win.

 

after that you could leave them be, or further expedite with daily 12 hr deprivation, but probably not necessary this late in the season. Begin your  flowering nutrients now.  repeat next year.

 

  I'd only veg indoors if  I could control the yard stink. I got the late season mold whooped with a  solar powered attic fan but the smells haunt me when I sleep, so I crawled back into my buzzing power sucking carbon footprint.

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I have the contractor bags and will use them, if not I will cut some hd black plastic to fit. Will start this evening and cover for minimum of 24 hours and maybe only allow 12 hours of light for a few days.

 

No problem with stink as neighbors are quite some distance away. Ran last year without any issues.

 

Thanks

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Just covered the plants, will uncover tomorrow night as that will give 42 hours of darkness. Then I will cover each day from 6:30 pm until dark for a couple weeks.

 

The heavy duty black plastic works well, just stapled the edges together. Used a piece 7' x 15' of plastic for each plant, a tub for small ones.

 

Hope the heat isn't too much for them. Time will tell.

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so you're saying 24h darkness will start flower? but its still 6:30 sunrise to 8:30 sunset. 14 hours sunlight.

Yes, I am. (24-48hrs)

 

the difference is seen when compared to a vegged plant placed into the 12/12 room and flowered, vs the same geno deprived light for 24 hours before entering the 12/12 period. The finish is spot on predictable with repeated results. I don't always do this because I could care less how fast a plant finishes mostly, and in no hurry. The treatment results are exaggerated with an auto flowering variety. Weeks can be shaved from the finish date. Obviously less vegging may result in less yield, but that's a given planting late outdoors or dikken with auto's.

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I would let them run their course. Gives them some more time to veg.

 

I am very skeptical about the 24 hr light depravation this time of year.

 

I agree with the jump start into a 12/12 cycle but as T pointed out we are at 14 and I have some serious reservations based on past experience. Perhaps the genetics I ran were weak.

 

Hot sun + Black plastic bag = cooked plant

 

Good luck and keep us toasted, er posted

 

Eta. Shade and weather/overcast are also factors

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maybe not "weak" genetics, just ones with differing dna coding.  Some of my "normal" flowering period plants, the 60 day types, after a few generations of cloning

will develop pre flowers and long white hairs, swollen calyx in the veg room shortly after rooting, and that's at 24/7 lighting inches form the canopy. They wont ever develop full flowers but they know they're supposed to any minute now. I don't consider those, or their opposites or weak genetics, only phenotypes within my garden. Not all the clones will pre flower, and not all the time either. strange. DNA anomalies, hormone surges/messages can occur at any time. The most bizarre(normal?) behavior in my garden is seen when comparing aspects of the grounded plants to the non grounded, their down line, and finish times.

 

best most telling results will be had by controlling some plants and their finish and not the others simple enough. I'd love to see the results in the months to come.

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Uncovered the plants last night, small plants look good as I used plastic pales to cover. The larger plants have damage on tips, these had the black plastic covering. I will not be using the plastic again, too much damage. I will just let plants finish out anyway they wish now. No more covering for me.

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Uncovered the plants last night, small plants look good as I used plastic pales to cover. The larger plants have damage on tips, these had the black plastic covering. I will not be using the plastic again, too much damage. I will just let plants finish out anyway they wish now. No more covering for me.

use the plastic that's white outside, black other side.  the white reflects the heat, plants don't cook.

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use the plastic that's white outside, black other side.  the white reflects the heat, plants don't cook.

 

Thanks pb, I will remember this for later use. I did have 4 stakes around the plants, but not tall enough as taller stakes would have helped protect the top growth.

 

I am removing the damaged parts and plants will be fine. Keep an eye on plants and see if they change over to flowering in a week or two.

 

Thought I read about a breathable cover for plants that is store bought, will try to find a link for future use.

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be sure breathable store bought covers block light, or......"I use garbage cans" of course.

Keep in mind I damage my flowering plants all the time, Sometimes for horticulture habits, growth control

and height restrictions with no adverse reactions. sometimes the top chop encourages (hormones) bushier growth in

an attempt of the plant to make more seeds and survive the attack from above. no worries of damage.....way better than unfinished moldy giants imo.

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I agree with the garbage cans for smaller plants, worked well. Other plants are 5' tall and 4.5' around. Removed the damaged ends and some damaged leaves and they will be fine too.

 

Got really good soil in this area, lots of chicken poop from years past.

 

If plants run late, then I can tarp the roof to keep out some of the rain. Add a fan or two maybe.

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Blackhorse, got that link?  Breathable cover or plant sack that is lightproof?  My buddy needs those!  His 4 blue dream clones came from the same batch as mine.  Our plants, outdoors in diff locations in detroit, are vastly different.  While all are in-ground, are 7 foot tall by 6 foot wide, mine have fully formed all-female buds with brite orange hairs while his have not yet shown pre-sex.

His have no light pollution, while mine are reached by dim street lamp lite of the new type put up by the detroit lighting authority and are super brite blue lights, tho half a block away.

It isn't sposed to be this way is it?

But in my garden and not in his, every strain is budding except for gorillla glue #4 which shows does show early hairs.  the strains below below are just a bit behind blue dream.  

afghan kush

bruce banner

deathstar

platinum cookie

pre-98 bubba kush

skywalker

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PB: Someone was talking on forum awhile back about the plant sack, I have looked and can't find anything. Will look some more.

 

Seems like it should be the other way around with the budding plants. Good luck with harvest. I see a mid October harvest here.

 

I got Gorilla glue and a deathstar that are large.

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Update: It has been a week now since covering the plants. Two of the three larger plants are turning to flowering. Smaller plants are not showing any change yet.

 

Changes I would make next time:

 

Drive 4 t post around the plants and leave taller than plants, put 2x2s on top, then cut and fit plastic to fit over. This will cut down on damage to plants from plastic touching the leaves.

 

Most of damage was from the plastic touching the plant.

 

GM: Thank you for the information.

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