Possession Arrests After Wash D.c. Quasi Legalization? 7.

[t-pain]

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2015/11/10/a-year-after-marijuana-legalization-arrests-are-dramatically-down/

 

A Year After Marijuana Legalization, Arrests Are Dramatically Down

Posted by Andrew Giambrone on November 10, 2015 at 2:55 pm

 

 

 

 

Last week, on Nov. 4, the District marked the first anniversary of the passage of Initiative 71, a ballot measure that effectively legalized weed, at least in the form of possessing, growing, and using (but not selling) tiny amounts of it in one's home.

 

In that line, data provided by the Metropolitan Police Department shows that marijuana arrests have dropped to historic lows. MPD has only issued seven arrests for possession of marijuana this year, as of Nov. 6—down 99.2 percent from 2014's 895 total arrests. Even last year, though, police arrested just seven people from Jul. 7 to Dec. 31, likely an indication of a change in MPD strategy after decriminalization first took effect. Here's a by-the-numbers breakdown of MPD arrests for pot possession from 2010 through last week:

 

 

2010: 2161

 

2011: 2346

 

2012: 1553

 

2013: 1215

 

2014: 895

 

2015: 7 (as of Nov. 6)

 

Possession arrests spiked in 2011 during this period, and gradually decreased until 2014. Then, they plummeted. “I’m not policing the city as a mom, I’m policing it as the police chief—and 70 percent of the public supported [initiative 71]," Police Chief Cathy Lanier said in February, according to The Daily Beast. "All those arrests do is make people hate us."

 

Don't take these declining numbers as a justification to light up on the streets of D.C., however: It's still illegal to smoke weed in public.

[t-pain]

michigan has 20,000 arrests for possession/use of marijuana each year.

[t-pain]

police have to follow the law

 

change the law to allow legalized marijuana possess and grow and the cops must follow the law. its not a difficult concept.

 

i do not have the data for the crimes in question. feel free to ask DC police about manf arrests. i doubt its many for manf, and after they set some limits, its possible that people will follow those limits instead of getting into trouble.

 

if you want to bet that those crimes are also raising, i'll bet you that they are not in any legalized state. $20 , you on?

[trichcycler]

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2015/11/10/a-year-after-marijuana-legalization-arrests-are-dramatically-down/

 

A Year After Marijuana Legalization, Arrests Are Dramatically Down

Posted by Andrew Giambrone on November 10, 2015 at 2:55 pm

 

 

 

 

Last week, on Nov. 4, the District marked the first anniversary of the passage of Initiative 71, a ballot measure that effectively legalized weed, at least in the form of possessing, growing, and using (but not selling) tiny amounts of it in one's home.

 

In that line, data provided by the Metropolitan Police Department shows that marijuana arrests have dropped to historic lows. MPD has only issued seven arrests for possession of marijuana this year, as of Nov. 6—down 99.2 percent from 2014's 895 total arrests. Even last year, though, police arrested just seven people from Jul. 7 to Dec. 31, likely an indication of a change in MPD strategy after decriminalization first took effect. Here's a by-the-numbers breakdown of MPD arrests for pot possession from 2010 through last week:

 

 

2010: 2161

 

2011: 2346

 

2012: 1553

 

2013: 1215

 

2014: 895

 

2015: 7 (as of Nov. 6)

 

Possession arrests spiked in 2011 during this period, and gradually decreased until 2014. Then, they plummeted. “I’m not policing the city as a mom, I’m policing it as the police chief—and 70 percent of the public supported [initiative 71]," Police Chief Cathy Lanier said in February, according to The Daily Beast. "All those arrests do is make people hate us."

 

Don't take these declining numbers as a justification to light up on the streets of D.C., however: It's still illegal to smoke weed in public.

doesn't matter, stats must be flawed, or something?

 Quasi legalization will not work, and if you believe it will, well, you're just another ignorant prohibitionist.   

[Greg Rx]

doesn't matter, stats must be flawed, or something?

 Quasi legalization will not work, and if you believe it will, well, you're just another ignorant prohibitionist.   

Crickets chirp 

[Wild Bill]

police have to follow the law

 

If the police in Michigan followed the law we wouldn't be having these problems.

[Restorium2]

doesn't matter, stats must be flawed, or something?

 Quasi legalization will not work, and if you believe it will, well, you're just another ignorant prohibitionist.   

Do you believe all stats and studies? I have this bridge that I don't need any more. FREE SHIPPING too. 

[Restorium2]

How much you want to bet that I can find someone sent to jail for marijuana in every single quazi legalization state. I can find victims. Many.

 

I'll give you any odds you want and I'm taking any and all bets. Bring it.

[Restorium2]

A glimpse of the tangled web of QUAZI legalization in WA;

 

When the officer responded, the manager of the business told the officer that the business is a marijuana consultant business that provides advice to people trying to grow weed, Moore said. Marijuana is then given to customers on a donation basis.

The officer then contacted Alexander, Moore said.

“Alexander explained the business as a medical marijuana facility that donates marijuana to clients,” Moore said of the officer’s report. His employees, Alexander told the officer, are also “caregivers” who deliver marijuana.

“Nothing he’s doing here is legal,” Moore said.

Under the medical marijuana act, Moore said, patients are allowed to grow marijuana but are only allowed to have a 60-day supply for personal use. Patients cannot give away, distribute or sell marijuana under any circumstances, Moore said.

Caregivers, he said, are defined by state law as those who assist the patient with medical marijuana. But caregivers can only have one patient at a time, Moore said.

A collective garden, designed to provide marijuana to multiple patients, has a limit of 45 plants and can be used by no more than 10 patients, according to Washington law.

And the business doesn’t have a license to sell recreational marijuana, nor has it ever applied for a license, said Brian Smith, spokesman for Washington State Liquor Control Board.

So the operation that Alexander is running, law enforcement said, doesn’t comply with recreational or medical marijuana state laws.

“Some aspects of marijuana are legal, but it’s not just legal across the board,” said Cmdr. John Horch, who heads the drug task force. “This individual seems to be taking advantage of the law that was passed and operating without a license and selling it to anybody and also avoiding the taxes. It’s not fair to the dispensaries that went about it the right way.”

[Restorium2]

How ironic is this? ;

 

 It’s not fair to the dispensaries that went about it the right way

Edited November 12, 2015 by Restorium2

[t-pain]

How much you want to bet that I can find someone sent to jail for marijuana in every single quazi legalization state. I can find victims. Many.

 

I'll give you any odds you want and I'm taking any and all bets. Bring it.

no one is arguing that quasi legalization stopped all marijuana arrests. obviously the thread title says 7 arrests, so its not over yet. but 800 last year to 7 this year is a huge drop. just like 37000 arrests in colorado to 2,000 arrests is a huge drop.

[Restorium2]

no one is arguing that quasi legalization stopped all marijuana arrests. obviously the thread title says 7 arrests, so its not over yet. but 800 last year to 7 this year is a huge drop. just like 37000 arrests in colorado to 2,000 arrests is a huge drop.

I just posted about somebody who is a victim BECAUSE of quasi legalization and the new cop attitude to protect the dispensaries ....

[t-pain]

hes a victim because hes selling weed to people outside of the tax and regulate. i dont think that was legal before i502, possibly before 2013 when wa legislators messed up the washington mmj law.

 

but i'd have to dig deep into the history and i dont feel like doing that.

[beourbud]

hes a victim because hes selling weed to people outside of the tax and regulate. i dont think that was legal before i502, possibly before 2013 when wa legislators messed up the washington mmj law.but i'd have to dig deep into the history and i dont feel like doing that.

Thinkin the fux up was when they started the Prohibition on cannabis in the first place back in the 1930's, you know when Prohibition was in vogue.,

IIRC those prohibitions were drafted by greedy corporations in the oil, textile/rope and bird seed industry giants to monopolize their markets.

Edited November 12, 2015 by beourbud

[Restorium2]

no one is arguing that quasi legalization stopped all marijuana arrests. obviously the thread title says 7 arrests, so its not over yet. but 800 last year to 7 this year is a huge drop. just like 37000 arrests in colorado to 2,000 arrests is a huge drop.

Do you really believe there were only 7? You can swallow that? I found 6 in ten minutes on the net. 

[t-pain]

those are just the reported arrests that are tallied up in this report. there of course could be more.

 

just like the 800 number could be higher as well.

 

(also this article is about washington DC , you pasted something from washington state fyi)

[Norby]

Point is that if the cops are going to do something, they are going to do it regardless.  Why stop the progression towards decrim? Each step of the way shows more people the hypocrisy.  You can't just write the perfect law that will not put anyone in jail.  First off the general populace isn't ready to vote for something like that because there still is reefer madness propaganda out there and the old folks vote.  There is no substance that can be ingested that isn't under guidelines when you sell to the general public unless it's illegal to consume it, although maybe not posess it, like spice or whatever the new thing is to get around the laws.

The problem is with the way the cops and judges act.  That is a separate problem.  They still bring in people for not signaling if you don't listen to their every request.  If MJ was decriminalized people would still be arrested having MJ for mouthing off to cops or swerving, etc.  You're right they shouldn't have any ability to take you in for MJ but to vote against diminished laws in the meantime because the cops and judges "don't act right" is pretty much keeping in line with the thinking of the anti's.  Look who votes the same way and no matter what your reason, your voting against progress and voting to have harsher penalties for people who get caught.

[Timmahh]

A glimpse of the tangled web of QUAZI legalization in WA;

 

When the officer responded, the manager of the business told the officer that the business is a marijuana consultant business that provides advice to people trying to grow weed, Moore said. Marijuana is then given to customers on a donation basis.

The officer then contacted Alexander, Moore said.

“Alexander explained the business as a medical marijuana facility that donates marijuana to clients,” Moore said of the officer’s report. His employees, Alexander told the officer, are also “caregivers” who deliver marijuana.

“Nothing he’s doing here is legal,” Moore said.

Under the medical marijuana act, Moore said, patients are allowed to grow marijuana but are only allowed to have a 60-day supply for personal use. Patients cannot give away, distribute or sell marijuana under any circumstances, Moore said.

Caregivers, he said, are defined by state law as those who assist the patient with medical marijuana. But caregivers can only have one patient at a time, Moore said.

A collective garden, designed to provide marijuana to multiple patients, has a limit of 45 plants and can be used by no more than 10 patients, according to Washington law.

And the business doesn’t have a license to sell recreational marijuana, nor has it ever applied for a license, said Brian Smith, spokesman for Washington State Liquor Control Board.

So the operation that Alexander is running, law enforcement said, doesn’t comply with recreational or medical marijuana state laws.

“Some aspects of marijuana are legal, but it’s not just legal across the board,” said Cmdr. John Horch, who heads the drug task force. “This individual seems to be taking advantage of the law that was passed and operating without a license and selling it to anybody and also avoiding the taxes. It’s not fair to the dispensaries that went about it the right way.”

He is just a dirty Tax Evader trying to fund I.S.I.S. lmao  Sarcasm of course.

 

Just like all those being arrested on Colorado for "Excise Tax Evasion" and any other Commerce Clause they can charge a 'person' under.

 

Quasi-Legalization of Taxation and Regulation of the Least Desirable Concept linked to Cannabis is just better titled, "The Elimination of the Free Market Principles and Stifling of Fair Market Competition and Death of Research, Developments, Innovations for the Benefit and Profit of the Select Few Act".

 

Abrogate Prohibition Michigan 2016 Because More Laws Create More Criminals and Is Still Prohibition.

Edited November 20, 2015 by Timmahh