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anyone heard bout this?

https://www.screenyourgreen.com/

 

the test kit is $10 but it costs $25 per plant test...

 

basically you scrape some leaf and mail it to them for testing.

 

is it a thc test from the leaves?

males and females differ in the leaf matter somehow.

interesting to check out... can sex a plant after two weeks veg time. no 12/12 required to sex.

 

whats that mean? after two weeks the female plants have a difference in the leaves vs the males?

 

hormones? color? thc? terps?

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Cool find. But I've usually been able to determine sex by the preflowers within about four weeks from sprouting.

 

So this service would give results about a week earlier. Not really worth it to me.

 

I'm not sure why they say you can mail the sample safely. It is still cannabis sent through the mail.

 

You can be sure that postal inspectors already know what to watch for to intercept seeds, etc. How long will it be before they start intercepting mail sent to this company? I'm not too worried about being the recipient of seeds sent in the mail, but to be the sender is a different risk altogether.

 

I'd rather spend the $25 on a clone from a reliable source.

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it is not thc testing. it is chromo testing. pretty cheap actually, but totally useless maybe, to me at least. its been around for a few, and they have competitors. The necessary smear sent wont resemble anything but spit. Undetectable except for a dna test, an unlikely event at the post office. Its just a wet smear, like a tissue culture in fact. I don't fear receiving seeds but would fear sending them also. 

 Cannabis tissue cultures are mailed legally within the country.  they contain undifferentiated dna, not a plant, not a seed or even a leaf. the sample will never result into a plant without voodoo and very specific hormonal instructions. Mailing outside of the country is a different process, but legal. Much the same as legally mailing psilos as cultures, but not as fungus.

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I don't know what you mean by "cannabis tissue cultures are mailed legally within the country." As a schedule 1 material "all parts" of the cannabis plant are illegal to possess or transport under federal law.

 

I understand where you are coming from when you might say that it would be impossible to determine if the "smear" is cannabis.

 

A suitable comparison is Jack Kevorkian and his assisted suicide machines. He helped many patients achieve a humane death, and there was never enough proof of his felony activity until he went on national TV and actually showed the world what he was doing. Then he went to prison.

 

One might say that there is nearly a zero chance that anyone would be charged or convicted for mailing smears of cannabis plant material in the mail. I'd agree. But if you go on 60 minutes and declare to the world that you are sending cannabis plant smears in the mail, you just confessed your federal felony to the world.

 

There is a huge difference between what is legal/illegal and what is provable.

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I don't know what you mean by "cannabis tissue cultures are mailed legally within the country." As a schedule 1 material "all parts" of the cannabis plant are illegal to possess or transport under federal law.

 

I understand where you are coming from when you might say that it would be impossible to determine if the "smear" is cannabis.

 

A suitable comparison is Jack Kevorkian and his assisted suicide machines. He helped many patients achieve a humane death, and there was never enough proof of his felony activity until he went on national TV and actually showed the world what he was doing. Then he went to prison.

 

One might say that there is nearly a zero chance that anyone would be charged or convicted for mailing smears of cannabis plant material in the mail. I'd agree. But if you go on 60 minutes and declare to the world that you are sending cannabis plant smears in the mail, you just confessed your federal felony to the world.

 

There is a huge difference between what is legal/illegal and what is provable.

 

Felony? No way. After watching how it works, I suspect that any cannabis in the imprint is WAY below any legal limit - that is, if it were detectable at all.

 

You'd be more likely to get charged with mailing cocaine by sending a $20 bill through the mail.

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tissue cultured cannabis dna material is not cannabis material, it is undifferentiated dna, amounting to nothing, until instructed to reassemble.  hope that helps.

 

psilo's are illegal too, yet you can mail thousands per day to a friend.   The cultured calyx, anther, root, etc or cannabis is not cannabis, until its told to be cannabis. it is a smear of unidentifiable dna, until its not.   Been down this road, Post Master, attorney, etc. This issue has been settled many years ago  to my surprise. 

 

recall its not like there is a leaf, a seed, a root, or ay plant material remaing after it is soaked in bleach, whirled in alcohol, then bleach again, then totally disassembled at the genetic level, into something that resemble a rock, without the god particle.    no thc, no cannabis, no nothing, just liquid spit.  

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"Below the legal limit?" Do tell. What is this legal limit for mailing cannabis. I thought it was zero. Enlighten me.

 

Not "legal limit for mailing". Legal limit for being charged with any kind of marijuana possession. How much can an "imprint" contain? Do you really think anyone could get charged with mailing a microgram of cannabis (and, again, it doesn't contain actual cannabis, but there is possible amounts in micro- or nano-gram just by contact. Guessing. ) 

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Not "legal limit for mailing". Legal limit for being charged with any kind of marijuana possession. How much can an "imprint" contain? Do you really think anyone could get charged with mailing a microgram of cannabis (and, again, it doesn't contain actual cannabis, but there is possible amounts in micro- or nano-gram just by contact. Guessing. ) 

Can and would are two different things. 

 

You could get charged but they might not for various reasons....

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Yeah, I guess everything depends if someone has it in for you. There is no end to the creativity used by those in power to unjustly prosecute someone.

If the business itself was being hammered then they might charge some of it's customers. Or backtrack to the source of the customer's samples. It could possibly be grounds for a warrant. 

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Not "legal limit for mailing". Legal limit for being charged with any kind of marijuana possession. How much can an "imprint" contain? Do you really think anyone could get charged with mailing a microgram of cannabis (and, again, it doesn't contain actual cannabis, but there is possible amounts in micro- or nano-gram just by contact. Guessing. )

wondered about that nanogram too. I know the bit of material I use is never larger than a split pea. this is what I start with, form a stick, a bit of root, anther, calyx, seed, leaf etc. It spins in a sonic toothbrush cleaner in 5%bleach water for minutes, then 70% iso for minutes, then 5% bleach for a seconds, then clean water, twice for sterilization, in a clean room with sterile tools, surgical outfit/tyvek/Lysol by the case....

 

Whats left is a about half that size after "dead" edges are trimmed. This is cultured into a small "blob" and ordered to divide/multiply. It does get larger, and can grow as large as a coffee can if allowed to. I only need it large enough to be able to cut viable explants from it, for further division/sprouting/rooting/experimenting. Tissue cultures that are mailed are barely visible in their test tube of agar, about 10000 times more agar than visible spec. Literally a needle point size "artificial seed" encased in its own protective barrier stuck somewhere in the 1/2 x 1/2 inch of agar in the bottom of a test tube. If left there it wouldnever grow larger, would never become anything other than mold if "disturbed" and eventually "dry up" in 5 or so years as the invisible seed used all of the available food it was encased in.

In a light, under a microscope( I use a 1600x digital LCD one that rocks) all you see is a discoloration of the agar somewhere in the center of the sample. its near liquid, but there is a solid piece within, of undifferentiated dna. It does not ever see cannabis after it is sterilized. it will mold within a day of breach if not cared for properly. the cells inside are totipotent, they are capable of reproducing any part of the plant, or a whole plant. my post master has been very helpful in this matter. no special requirements are necessary, no disease, no gmo, no human cells, no waste, no infectious material, safe to eat even. Unregulated biological materials

 

Examples include purified enzymes, sterilized specimens, non-pathogenic bacteria as well as toxins, antitoxins, vaccines, blood and blood products that are used for transplantation or in a transfusion, but have no or very low probability of producing disease are categorized as unregulated biological materials.

 

 

shipping gmo products require a different procedure including filing an application, a promise to use the samples safely and in accordance with .......but are always issued/approved.

the post office sticks a "biological DNA material" sticker on the package and its done. it is not considered cannabis any longer but plant dna. shipping gmo outside of the country is yet another procedure but again not too difficult.

 

think illegal mushrooms illegal to ship, but their spores are shipped every day legally. buying them is an agreement that you wont use them for anything but study.

 

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i buy vegetable seeds in 100 or 200 (or even 10000) at a time for less than $10 each packet.

 

so i think of it like buying the "rights" to a tomato heirloom variety.

 

 

sure, i'm not saying all seeds must drop in price or anything. the market i'm sure will still be there for expert breeders seeds at high prices. just saying, the illegality affects seed prices too.

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