Godfather Of Mmj Movement In Georgia Is A R

[Restorium2]

Perhaps New York Republikans are different from those we have in Michigan.

 

I don't remember any stories coming out of New York about their legislature overturning votes of the electorate, displacing elected officials, poisoning entire communities or generally ignoring the welfare of the people in order to push through their own big business agendas.

 

They might just be swell guys back east.

Well, they are NOT spineless vaginas. So they get a pass, a cigar, and a glass of whiskey. 

[Norby]

Perhaps New York Republikans are different from those we have in Michigan.

 

I don't remember any stories coming out of New York about their legislature overturning votes of the electorate, displacing elected officials, changing the wording of laws at the last minute in order to invalidate upcoming referendums, poisoning entire communities or generally ignoring the welfare of the people in order to push through their own big business agendas.

 

They might just be swell guys back east.

They don't have to the dems are in cahoots.  There the dems take away your guns in the middle of the night and cave to the R's idea of a med mj program.

I am not "for" republicans, only left wing d's would see me as that.  Would a R post all the stuff I have on MJ and Flint and snyder?  The posts on the MSP labs?  I just wish people would start looking at people rather than some party affiliation that means nothing when it comes down to it.  Without some R's nothing can get done.  And I'm surprised that any R's even come to this site, personally I feel sorry for them for all the blame they get and all the excuses made for dems who do worse.

I'm for people getting over the d's are good and r's are bad.  It is what it is and that's what we have to work with.  But thinking the d's have no power and using it as a platform to vote in all d's is just as dangerous for the well being of the country/state/etc.  I just got the chance to be legal with guns AND MJ and I'd hate to see the restrictions move here that have gone thru every D state.  There are a lot of other issues the d's would jeapordize this country with.  the 2 balance out the destruction each one would cause if in total power. 

 

So we have what we have and turning it into nothing but a political arena waiting year after 4 years for the dems to get back in power instead of seeing it's up to the people coming together no matter what their job(dispensary, testing facility) or their political backing to get this done is missing the problem and just dividing people further and further into factions.

 

You have to realize, no matter how wrong it is, that we have to accomodate everyone in this country.  The idea there should be no laws and oversight is the same extreme as people who think it should be illegal(it's right but it's extreme opposite what we have today).  By backing off a little you can gain the other extreme backing off also.  Stopping the outright bashing of every republican no matter what they do and putting the dems on top, no matter if the DNC chair of the party is against it(that weighs more than some votes) could actually get back closer to the center and bring people together.

 

But hey if you'd rather keep with the political slant of never giving any accolades to an R that does something good, well, your going to loose people by overexagerrating the truth of the situation,  Every R is not responsible for Snyder and Shuette's fukups.  And I thought I saw some dems involved in the chain, maybe I misread, either way it seems you don't like the blanket statements as much as I don't so maybe a truce?  Speak better of who you're talking about and I'll do the same.  It should be easy as I'm generally reacting to someone else grouping everyone together when I do it also.

 

Sorry this was speaking to everyone after the first sentence, not all at WB.

[+Malamute]

Common Mistake:  Assuming That " Voting out republicans" applies to you personally. You are not an elected official.

 

Dem's(voters) need to vote in better Dem's.

 

Repube's(voters) need to vote in better Republicans.

 

The real work is on the republican side as said in my previous post.  There are lopsided votes like this all over the country. No Democratic governor has ever veto'd a marijuana bill. Many republican governors have.

 

I think, Norby, your position tends to think weare talking about electorate when we are talking about the elected.

 

Now, I do have things to say about the electorate as well.  Such as 78% of Dem's support marijuana reform and 36% of republican voters do.  *shrug*

[AmishRnot4ganja]

Sure, take out the good that the R's have done.  You should take a job in the news industry.  They'd love that you could take a good story of helping and turn it into a devisive one.

 

Sorry. I should have made my post clearer. I was referring to this guy's opponents. The ones who see a "slippery slope of legalization".

[t-pain]

guys really have to do the R vs D thing in every thread? haha

[Norby]

Sorry. I should have made my post clearer. I was referring to this guy's opponents. The ones who see a "slippery slope of legalization".

Again, I apologize. Still wasn't right of me to say.

[Norby]

Common Mistake:  Assuming That " Voting out republicans" applies to you personally. You are not an elected official.

 

Dem's(voters) need to vote in better Dem's.

 

Repube's(voters) need to vote in better Republicans.

 

The real work is on the republican side as said in my previous post.  There are lopsided votes like this all over the country. No Democratic governor has ever veto'd a marijuana bill. Many republican governors have.

 

I think, Norby, your position tends to think weare talking about electorate when we are talking about the elected.

 

Now, I do have things to say about the electorate as well.  Such as 78% of Dem's support marijuana reform and 36% of republican voters do.  *shrug*

Dammit, I'm not a republican I'm an independent!!!   Like I said the only reason you guys think that is that you are far left.  The 2 R's on this site wished me a "happy holidays".  I don't know if that's just how they are or that they understand I'm not a R, but the latter is what I took it as.  I'm pretty sure a R can tell I'm not a R.

 

Isn't this a state where you can vote in teh other parties primary?

 

No, I think some people blame the voters who vote r not just the politicians.  I've already had to explain why some people vote republican when a lot of them are against MJ.  People here really do expect everyone to be a single issue voter.  Unless another way is found we're doomed. Look around the site.  Any fuking dem posts?  It looks, maybe just because 2 people follow me in every post denouncing reps, that the site is a recruiting station for dems rather than a group that wants the politicians in office to represent them.  Did anyone call their reps about the medible and despense bills, oops forgot this site is against them, nevermind.  Well the cops unions seemed to be on top of things.  While we sit divided and preyed upon.

 

And Wild Bill, you should look into NY politics dealing with casinos and the med MJ law and the Safe act with Cuomo, Sheldon Silver and the other dem who got indicted.  2 of the 3 men in a room that controlled NY politics are in jail.  Look at the cartel that is Med MJ in NY and look how much they greased Cuomos pocket to get it.  There was recently an article in Buffalo about oil in the lake at the intakes for the city water and NY contaminated the whole state years ago by dems selling out to the corporations.  There are tons of bans on eating fish and SWIMMING in a lot of lakes.  Swimming isnt from the algal blooms it's from teh mercury and other env toxins from Kodak.  So ya, dems sold out our clean environment a long time ago right up to present in NYS, taxed us double what you get here for housing, school, tolls on teh roads and sales tax for roads that are just as bad as here.  To the victor goes the spoils of ruining the state their way.

[+Malamute]

Norby, I typically don't care about new York, but you act as if New York has been run by Democrats exclusively.

 

I believe(please look it up and prove me wrong because I am too lazy to go fact check myself now) that the Governorship in New York has been  Republicans More than Democrats in the last 25ish years, The republicans have hands down owned the new York state senate except for like 2 years in the last 30 or something, and the state house is the only place where democrats have had majorities for most of the last 30 years.

 

So,... Why are you only blaming democrats in New York when their government has been run by republicans more than democrats for your whole lifetime?  I mean seriously.

[+Malamute]

Dammit, I'm not a republican I'm an independent!!!   Like I said the only reason you guys think that is that you are far left.  The 2 R's on this site wished me a "happy holidays".  I don't know if that's just how they are or that they understand I'm not a R, but the latter is what I took it as.  I'm pretty sure a R can tell I'm not a R.

 

 

I actually had to read that like 5 times to figure out wtf you meant. You are saying that they didn't tell you "Merry Christmas" but "happy Holidays" because they know you are not republican.. *triple blink*

 

 

 

 

No, I think some people blame the voters who vote r not just the politicians.  I've already had to explain why some people vote republican when a lot of them are against MJ.  People here really do expect everyone to be a single issue voter.  Unless another way is found we're doomed. Look around the site. 

 

I do blame many republican voters as well as I stated before. You can vote in the republican primary for a candidate who supports your republican views AND supports medical marijuana fully. They do exist in the primaries,... sometimes. 

 

 

 

  It looks, maybe just because 2 people follow me in every post denouncing reps, that the site is a recruiting station for dems rather than a group that wants the politicians in office to represent them. 

 

I would say because almost all Dems support medical marijuana whereas the republicans support the police unions. That is pretty straight forward. As far as people following you around,  I have even asked one of them to tone it down before.  It can be excessive. But you always come in Touting republican positions and republican politicians and condemning democrats.  It is easy to understand why people act towards you the way they do. Including your new York complaining of democrats when republicans were the ones that neutered up that New York Medical law.  Look closer and pay closer attention.

 

 

  Did anyone call their reps about the medible and despense bills, oops forgot this site is against them, nevermind.  Well the cops unions seemed to be on top of things.  While we sit divided and preyed upon.

 

 

 

Sigh'.... I can say pretty confidently that the people that come to this site call and talk to their Rep/Senators and pay closer attention to the bills and lansing more than the rest of the state combined. Period.

 

All while the republican Rep/Sen lick the polices balls at every turn.  Fact.

 

The dispensary bill is crapola. The Extracts bill will likely create more criminals out of patients and caregivers if passed and more will end up in jail because of the current language in that bill.  Like these points:

 

 

(N) A QUALIFYING PATIENT SHALL NOT TRANSFER A MARIHUANA

INFUSED PRODUCT OR MARIHUANA TO ANY INDIVIDUAL.

 (O) A PRIMARY CAREGIVER SHALL NOT TRANSFER A MARIHUANA-INFUSED

 PRODUCT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS NOT A QUALIFYING PATIENT TO WHOM

 HE OR SHE IS CONNECTED THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT'S REGISTRATION

 PROCESS.

 

SEC. 4B. (1) EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SUBSECTIONS (2) TO (4), A

5 QUALIFYING PATIENT OR PRIMARY CAREGIVER SHALL NOT TRANSPORT OR

6 POSSESS A MARIHUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT IN OR UPON A MOTOR VEHICLE.

7 (2) THIS SECTION DOES NOT PROHIBIT A QUALIFYING PATIENT FROM

8 TRANSPORTING OR POSSESSING A MARIHUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT IN OR UPON A

9 MOTOR VEHICLE IF THE MARIHUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT IS IN A SEALED AND

10 LABELED PACKAGE THAT IS CARRIED IN THE TRUNK OF THE VEHICLE OR, IF

11 THE VEHICLE DOES NOT HAVE A TRUNK, IS CARRIED SO AS NOT TO BE

12 READILY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE VEHICLE. THE LABEL MUST

13 STATE THE WEIGHT OF THE MARIHUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT IN OUNCES, NAME

14 OF THE MANUFACTURER, DATE OF MANUFACTURE, NAME OF THE PERSON FROM

15 WHOM THE MARIHUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT WAS RECEIVED, AND DATE OF

16 RECEIPT.

(3) THIS SECTION DOES NOT PROHIBIT A PRIMARY CAREGIVER FROM

18 TRANSPORTING OR POSSESSING A MARIHUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT IN OR UPON A

19 MOTOR VEHICLE IF THE MARIHUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT IS ACCOMPANIED BY AN

20 ACCURATE MARIHUANA TRANSPORTATION MANIFEST AND ENCLOSED IN A CASE

21 CARRIED IN THE TRUNK OF THE VEHICLE OR, IF THE VEHICLE DOES NOT

22 HAVE A TRUNK, IS ENCLOSED IN A CASE AND CARRIED SO AS NOT TO BE

23 READILY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE VEHICLE. THE MANIFEST

24 FORM MUST STATE THE WEIGHT OF EACH MARIHUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT IN

25 OUNCES, NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE MANUFACTURER, DATE OF MANUFACTURE,

26 DESTINATION NAME AND ADDRESS, DATE AND TIME OF DEPARTURE, ESTIMATED

27 DATE AND TIME OF ARRIVAL, AND, IF APPLICABLE, NAME AND ADDRESS OF

THE PERSON FROM WHOM THE PRODUCT 1 WAS RECEIVED AND DATE OF RECEIPT.

 

 

 

So yea. There are reasons to be concerned about those bills. LET ALONE that INSANE tracking bill that goes with the dispensary bill.

 

 

 

[Wild Bill]

Just to clarify, I don't like the Demokrats either. To me the government is nothing but a gang. They make their living through, coercion, theft and murder. They never asked me if I wanted to participate in their "government" scheme and any complience on my part is strictly due to fear of violence on their part.

[+Malamute]

Vote.

[imiubu]

Since this thread went all D's vs R's (again), I would like to remind folks that the primaries are March 8, 2016.

 

http://elections.mytimetovote.com/dates/michigan.html

[Norby]

Norby, I typically don't care about new York, but you act as if New York has been run by Democrats exclusively.

 

I believe(please look it up and prove me wrong because I am too lazy to go fact check myself now) that the Governorship in New York has been  Republicans More than Democrats in the last 25ish years, The republicans have hands down owned the new York state senate except for like 2 years in the last 30 or something, and the state house is the only place where democrats have had majorities for most of the last 30 years.

 

So,... Why are you only blaming democrats in New York when their government has been run by republicans more than democrats for your whole lifetime?  I mean seriously.

I could ask the same as to why you are blaming only republicans for the state of Mi?  AS per articles on gun violence they like to classify Mi as dem to get the lower gun violence rates.  I'm only doing the same thing you are doing.  Why did dems get the chance to take away guns? R's didn't want that.  Cuomo and his father were gov for most of the last 20 years.  There have been 15 d gov and 10 r gov since 1900.  And the legislature isn't crap compared to the 3 D's in a room over the last 20 years.  It certainly isn't getting any cleaner in NYS.  I'll look up the senate now. 

See you want to make NYS a R state when it suits you but everyone else calls it a D state when looking at gun violence. 

That's why I don't like politics because it muddies your vision!  You start to act like it's a football team and blame everything on the officiating, the other team cheating and you don't look in house at all.

[Norby]

I actually had to read that like 5 times to figure out wtf you meant. You are saying that they didn't tell you "Merry Christmas" but "happy Holidays" because they know you are not republican.. *triple blink*

 

 

 

I do blame many republican voters as well as I stated before. You can vote in the republican primary for a candidate who supports your republican views AND supports medical marijuana fully. They do exist in the primaries,... sometimes. 

 

 

 

I would say because almost all Dems support medical marijuana whereas the republicans support the police unions. That is pretty straight forward. As far as people following you around,  I have even asked one of them to tone it down before.  It can be excessive. But you always come in Touting republican positions and republican politicians and condemning democrats.  It is easy to understand why people act towards you the way they do. Including your new York complaining of democrats when republicans were the ones that neutered up that New York Medical law.  Look closer and pay closer attention.

 

 

 

Sigh'.... I can say pretty confidently that the people that come to this site call and talk to their Rep/Senators and pay closer attention to the bills and lansing more than the rest of the state combined. Period.

 

All while the republican Rep/Sen lick the polices balls at every turn.  Fact.

 

The dispensary bill is crapola. The Extracts bill will likely create more criminals out of patients and caregivers if passed and more will end up in jail because of the current language in that bill.  Like these points:

 

 

 

 

So yea. There are reasons to be concerned about those bills. LET ALONE that INSANE tracking bill that goes with the dispensary bill.

 

 

 

First I'm talking about the OLD bills that got shot down so that we got what we have now which is crap.  Had we gathered together, we may have got the first ones.  now they're gone and the time has passed, we're now fuked.

 

Now you should find out how MY politics work.  We HAD joint control at the time the med bills was passed and Cuomo took over to get something from the R's, probably votes on the Safe act to take away guns.  Cuomo GAVE the bill to the republicans.  And this is why I don't trust your view, you will find a way to try and make D's look good cause this is like Star Wars for you.  There is only good and bad, no good on the bad team.  That is very dangerous and only divides because all you do is focus on teh MJ law and R's and blame.  When if just dems were in control we would be fuked in a different way and MJ wouldn't matter when you are enslaved and have no jobs and have to go on gov't programs.  Both D's and R's want you to have no job and be reliant on gov't or the private corporations.

 

And maybe if some of the people on this site were to tone it down a little we could get more people on this site to join in.  But if people are just going to fight over who's party is right all the time we don't spend any time telling the fuking politicians what WE want from them.

 

And I don't remember what else you wrote.  I'll go look up the senate control.  I know the house put thru a bill #'s of times that passed and that the senate was joint control when the med bill went thru and we can look back and show what a mess that's been, how much it costs and who's pockets got stuffed.  it'll all come out when tehy get the 3rd D (cuomo) on corruption.  See NY is just like here it's just that the dems did it.  I figure there is enough crap against the R's on this site already and I do add to it when pertinent, I just don't throw a blanket like ya'll do.  I realize they are both against us.  You guys are going to be surprised when you get them in control and they start pulling the same crap on nanogram limits and such.  Then you'll see neither are on our side.  They are both the same given the opportunity.

[Norby]

Cannabis users voting R is, to me, like a woman or minority voting R. And yes, the voters that vote R are definitely responsible for the crap R politicians we end up with.

Women and minorities want to own guns too to protect themselves.  Which is more important?  Can't use MJ if you can't protect yourself if someone wants to kill you.  Get the dems to back off guns and change on border security and a few other things and we'll talk.  Which should be the single issue people vote on?  Neither dems or reps will get it so they label our food.  Meither will overturn citizens united.  Maybe we need a 3rd party that really keeps us free from healthcare coersion, guns etc.

[Restorium2]

Women and minorities want to own guns too to protect themselves.  Which is more important?  Can't use MJ if you can't protect yourself if someone wants to kill you.  Get the dems to back off guns and change on border security and a few other things and we'll talk.  Which should be the single issue people vote on?  Neither dems or reps will get it so they label our food.  Meither will overturn citizens united.  Maybe we need a 3rd party that really keeps us free from healthcare coersion, guns etc.

Could you be more specific? Which dems and what exactly have they done(provide specifics).

[Wild Bill]

When I think of the Democrats I think of children playing with matches, dangerous but not intentionally so.

 

The Republican party reminds me of children tearing the legs off of mice. Depraved and cruel.

[Norby]

You should've seen teh looks on my friends faces when I told them I was called an anti here.  See, back there dems and reps alike are still ALL against the politicians.  They don't understand the division here.  I've told tehm how people are against testing facilities and dispensaries and blame everything on the R's when dems also voted for the transport bill and other anti mj things and they just don't understand.  Wait till I tell them you all think I'm a republican because I try and balance things here(I blame the actual people responsible in teh incident they are responsible in).  I know I lump all dems but as we argue I don't have the time to be more specific and it usually happens when someone starts with ALL r's.  So i can see somewhat why you think I'm an R but only because you are so far the opposite that all you do is dig in heels so I see YOUR side.  I see your side, I've voted mostly D all my life(and green and other 3rd party and libertarian).  I have lesbian sisters in law.  I have muslim, and every other group) friends.  But I own guns.  My friends house was burglarized by cartel thugs who stole a car at gunpoint just before, I wish for more fiscal conservatism, although you don't see it from R's anymore, I think gov't should fund research, I don't think the d's healthcare prop fixed it, etc.etc.etc.  And I have noticed that parties use your support and then accomplish their agenda with your power.  My friends on facebook like obama, but aren't for gun control, but the ad on fb says my friends all like obamas gun control efforts in teh ad.  Politics are not to be trusted or I'll be here in 4 years with you all bitching the D's didn't get rid of the transport law or the enacted a nanogram limit of 8 instead of 5 the R's wanted.  You guys act like the D's are our only chance and if that's the case we'll do the same thing expecting different results........

[Restorium2]

You should've seen teh looks on my friends faces when I told them I was called an anti here.  See, back there dems and reps alike are still ALL against the politicians.  They don't understand the division here.  I've told tehm how people are against testing facilities and dispensaries and blame everything on the R's when dems also voted for the transport bill and other anti mj things and they just don't understand.  Wait till I tell them you all think I'm a republican because I try and balance things here(I blame the actual people responsible in teh incident they are responsible in).  I know I lump all dems but as we argue I don't have the time to be more specific and it usually happens when someone starts with ALL r's.  So i can see somewhat why you think I'm an R but only because you are so far the opposite that all you do is dig in heels so I see YOUR side.  I see your side, I've voted mostly D all my life(and green and other 3rd party and libertarian).  I have lesbian sisters in law.  I have muslim, and every other group) friends.  But I own guns.  My friends house was burglarized by cartel thugs who stole a car at gunpoint just before, I wish for more fiscal conservatism, although you don't see it from R's anymore, I think gov't should fund research, I don't think the d's healthcare prop fixed it, etc.etc.etc.  And I have noticed that parties use your support and then accomplish their agenda with your power.  My friends on facebook like obama, but aren't for gun control, but the ad on fb says my friends all like obamas gun control efforts in teh ad.  Politics are not to be trusted or I'll be here in 4 years with you all bitching the D's didn't get rid of the transport law or the enacted a nanogram limit of 8 instead of 5 the R's wanted.  You guys act like the D's are our only chance and if that's the case we'll do the same thing expecting different results........

It's the way you described us to them. Like a bad study question. You got the answers you wanted from your friends. You just sent yourself further down the rabbit hole. 

[Norby]

The trope of Democrats as anti-gun fanatics is just not true. Total red herring. If you think trying to keep guns out of dangerous peoples' hands automatically equates to outlawing all guns, I'm not sure where to take that.

 

It seems clear that you think guns should be number one voting issue. What is it Democrats are doing that threatens your right to own a gun?

 

The woman or minority that votes Republican because they fear the Democrats taking their guns is even more nonsensical than I proposed.

Look up the Safe Act in NYS, look at the gun laws in cali.  You couldn't have more than 7 rounds in a clip and each clip over 7 rounds would be a felony.  Luckily a judge got that up to a 10 rnd clip bubt you could only put 7 rounds in it.  8 is a felony.  Redefined assault rifles, all have to be registered.  After that no more sold in NYS even if you wanted to transfer yours, no more registrations so if you sell it and someone else has it both felonies.  Background checks for ammo( backdoor method to hold ammo purchases off for days).  Passed at 4am and politicians wanted cops to start confiscating assault rifles the next day.  Mark Grasanti said we should be happy with what we got because politicians were demanding that the act ban all of the assault weapons and start confiscating teh next morning.  Don't give me that bunny muffin I had to leave NYS with my clips and guns to avoid felony charges and store tehm here till we got a house.  Don't give me that crap until you've lived with dems in NYS and know what you are talking about!!!!  Talk to the first decorated air force who got 5 felonies for transporting 5 - 20 rnd clips!!!

 

And NO I've never voted for a R here but i wouldn't blame someone for it if they KNEW what had gone on in NYS.  Unlike you I don't think I know it all and don't blame people for how they vote because it is a complex equation based on your DIFFERENT experiences in life, just like I don't BLAME you for voting D even though I know what I do from NYS.

Edited January 25, 2016 by Norby

[Restorium2]

Could you be more specific? Which dems and what exactly have they done(provide specifics).

[Norby]

When I think of the Democrats I think of children playing with matches, dangerous but not intentionally so.

 

The Republican party reminds me of children tearing the legs off of mice. Depraved and cruel.

Road to hell is paved with good intentions.  They could burn the whole place down.  Tearing the legs of mice, while depraved and cruel might not lead to the downfall of society, unless they have fleas of bubonic plague or something.  But the moral is one can never tell.  I'd hate to throw out all teh R's and then not be able to adequately protect myself.  Both can be extremely dangerous and that's why I like the idea of massive togheterness and orders for the gov that they can't run from.  You give it to either party overwhelmingly and they'll take it you believe in everything they do and use it to push the total agenda, even the things your not ok with.

[Norby]

This is the gun-grabbing that the Republicans are worried about? Wow, serious paranoia if this amount of minor regulation sets off the gun-grabbing spidey sense!

What?  You are for background checks every time you go to buy AMMUNITION?  You are ok with no more than a 10 round clip?  You are ok with felony charges for people for just owning a 20 rnd clip?  You don't think someone should have a .22 caliber gun if it has rails to attach a flashlight? You think all assault rifles should be REGISTERED? And you think they shouldve been able to confiscate ALL ASSAULT RIFLES with no notice and no restitution?  HOLY CRAP!!!!  You want the civil war to start cause that's what would've happened.  I think YOU should've been the first one to walk down a driveway in the country and tell them YOU were there to take awaay any assault rifles y'all might have on the premises. LOL

I can see why the R's get their ideas for regulation on MJ.

Edited January 25, 2016 by Norby

[Restorium2]

How are you ever going to explain to your 'friends' now that Michigan Medical Marijuana activism/activists are not filled with worthless dumbarses after you have totally thrown us under the bus with skewed information to make yourself right in your own mind? Game over for you and your friends ever seeing things here in a positive view. The rest of us are all going in the opposite direction, doing our best to paint a positive picture to everyone around us. 

[Norby]

Rifles, of which assault rifles is a subset, are responsible for 2.7% of "gun violence" in the US.  Pistols are 97.3%.  So you'd take away a right of Americans for a less then 2% stat and leave pistols alone?  And you accuse the R's of not looking at stats and infringing on rights?  I can see divide and conquer works well here.  Both sides don't care about the truth it's all about control.