The Cannabis Talk With My Father

[imiubu]

My father is 80 years old, born into prohibition, a staunch republican and very anti cannabis.

Less than 3 years ago we had harsh words where he blamed my troubled youth and all that

has gone wrong in my life on my smoking marijuana.  In that conversation he also stated

that "those boys coming home from Vietnam were idiots for smoking that marijuana".  Any

of you that know me can imagine how that lit me up.  My response was to explain the heroin

epidemic and to point out he had never been to war and will never be able to imagine the

horrors.

 

We didn't speak for nearly a year after that.

 

I love my dad, I don't like him much though.  We just do not think/ believe the same and

there has always been a deep divide between us.

 

The healing has finally begun, March 28, 2016 will be a day I will remember.

 

We talked about medical marijuana for nearly 45 minutes and he was engaged, curious

and thoughtful (is this my dad?).

 

The conversation moved through pre prohibition pharmacopeia, prohibition and why it occurred,

difference between hemp/ cannabis sativa, how the glands (trichomes) grow and those glands

hold the medicine, endocanniboid system, male/ female plants, self pollinating, the CSA/ Sched 1

status, Government patent, why smoking is the most common way to consume, pharmacuitical

companies and why they lobby against cannabis... etc...

 

We moved on to what I've learned about horticulture, chemistry, botany, microbes, converting

volts to amps so I don't overload circuits, my advocacy, activism, local government, dispensary

lobby, why most PCP don't sign certifications, Mi voted 63% for mmj, etc, etc...

 

He asked if he qualified (he does), where to get certified, what it cost, different ways to medicate

as he is not a smoker, how to access mmj, the cg/ pt system, etc...

He even asked if once he became a patient, could he legally grow 12 plants for himself!

 

Wow.

 

By the end of the conversation, he was not ready to become a mmj patient,

but the dam has burst, and the seed has been firmly planted.

I let him know that I will help but never push him.

 

My father provided us with a very nice life growing up.  The business he worked for

has been closed for several years now.  A few weeks ago I went past the building and

it looks like a dispensary is opening there.  I HAD to tell him. He laughed then told my

step mom "Hey, they are turning ___ ____ ___ into a pot shop!"

 

At that point I said "Yeah dad, the times they are a changing".

 

It saddens me to some degree that for over 40 years he would not hear me.

The media is now flooded with medical marijuana stories and it no longer bothers me

how he got the message... I am just ecstatic he has.

 

I had hoped this day would come.

 

It's never to late to talk with your parents about medical cannabis! 

 

[trichcycler]

one at a time....

 

way to go!!

[Jjamh]

Excellent!

[phaquetoo]

I would like to beleive I turned my pops opinion on mm!  I try not to push the subject but he has come around full circle!

 

Pop's is a retired cop ( as most of you know) he retired in 86 or 85!?!  He was totaly against pot as a cop and for a long time into retirement, I used to smoke with his cop friends when pops wasnt around in the late 70's and 80's,,,my old man has never gotten into any kind of legal trouble, neither has my mom!

 

When I was 16 and my pops was still a cop, we didnt have a big enough drive way for the 6 adults that lived in our/my child hood home, my mom's mom an dad, my mom and dad and me and my brother all lived there and had vehicles, my old man always told us not to bring that weed into his home, I mostly respected that (bawahahahaha) when he had to move my car to get his own out in the early mornings, he would always look into my closed ash tray and glove box!  He never failed to find a joint, sack or roach lol!  He would throw a s hit fit every time, I would tell him to quit looking for it, you will find it in MY CAR not his house, I paid for my own car after watching my older brother and sister get grounded from their cars that he bought them!

 

One day (i was still 16) myself, mom and dad were sitting on our front porch just chilling,  My old man asked my why I smoke weed and dont just drink alcohol instead, I responded that they were both ilegal for me and I do both lol!  He asked me why and what it felt like, I asked (the smart a ss that I am) why he has a few beers when he gets off work?  He said it relaxes him after a long day of work,,,,,I said weed does the same for me, and I asked him if he ever tried it, He said no he hasnt, I asked if he wanted to lol!

He said absolutly not, im a cop and weed is so bad for you!

 

Now my old man is 77 and my mom is 76 in june they both will be a yr older!  My mom is very exepting of me using mm instead of naroctic's that almost killed me when I was cold turkeyed off of them, my pops took a lil longer to accept it, Now I am living in their home with them, for 2 reasons, 1 reason is my ex gave me the boot because I told her it is not a good time to sell her home (that I paid for lol) she wanted to move to houghton lake, to get away from the town she lived in most of her life, she knew I would be taking care of my parents when it was time. 2 My mother can Not do a 1/4 of what she used to do, my pops has to do more inside of the house, he has major heart problems, diabete's and all that goes with it, I needed to move close to my parents so I could be there to help them, I bought a vacant lot across the street from them yrs ago with plans to build a home there when the time comes!

 

My ex only owed 6 more yrs on the house, our mortgage and taxes were 457.00 a month,  You cant rent a 3 bdrm 2 bathrm, full basement house for that payment!  She actualy wanted to put her house in my name so we could sell it and get a home or build one on my lot near my parents!  She does'nt work she has no income,  I wanted to stay in the house untill my parents needed me, and when that happened we would just go and live in their home and keep ours untill it was paid for and sell it!

 

I think alot of idiot men would have taken advantage of the putting the home in their name, I wouldnt do it, It didnt make good sense to me!

 

Ok so now pops dont care if I use my mm in his home, I hang my plants up in the 2nd floor of the garage to dry!  I have showed him my grow room where I was living, I am not growing at this time, my c.g gives me a plant at crop time and its always awsome and I dont have to grow it and never be able to go away from home for more than a weekend lol!

 

Now I have butter in the fridge, I mix bho in peanut butter right in the kitchen like it is just normal, I only smoke in my room both cigs and mm, I usualy mix some in my ryo cigs when I smoke in front of him out side or in the garage, he is very acomidating to it now!

 

Wow who would have thunk it? 2016 pot in my old mans house not only with permission but with sound aproval!

 

Thank You imi for this thread!

 

Peace

Jim

[Wild Bill]

The "Greatest Generation" has been so heavily indoctrinated to support the government no matter what that it is very difficult to get them to reason things through. You must be very persuasive.

[imiubu]

The "Greatest Generation" has been so heavily indoctrinated to support the government no matter what that it is very difficult to get them to reason things through. You must be very persuasive.

 

Have we met lol.

 

 

 

I am not one to believe 'everything happens for a reason".  I believe rather that life

presents opportunities and what we choose to do with those opportunities shapes our lives.

 

I had a little errand to run this morning in which I took a nice little stroll to accomplish.

Silly me.. I forgot my ID card... back home... back out again.

 

On my 2nd trip,  I met a nice retired lady and we stood on the corner talking for about 15 minutes.

She was telling me of her pain and her doctors cutting her Tramadol etc...

Right there is this advocates opportunity...

 

"Have you considered medical cannabis?" 

 

She now has my phone number.

 

 

1 at a time for sure.

[Hydraulic Jack]

My Mother was my patient until she went into long term care.....I still sneak her canna caps for her breakthrough pain...HJ

[cristinew]

My  Father smoked pot when it was Legal  pre, 1937 ,  He was a Jazz Musician.     

Edited March 29, 2016 by cristinew

[Norby]

My Dad died when I was 17.  He was still pretty miffed I got caught smoking pot in 7th grade at a catholic school. Told me that everyone he new in Viet Nam that used that stuff didn't come back alive.  Thought I was stupid for using it.  Don't blame him for back then though as he had a much harder and different life than I did.  I'm pretty sure he would've come around by now.

 

So happy things are turning around for you Imi. 

[Highlander]

My Dad died when I was 17.  He was still pretty miffed I got caught smoking pot in 7th grade at a catholic school. Told me that everyone he new in Viet Nam that used that stuff didn't come back alive.  Thought I was stupid for using it.  Don't blame him for back then though as he had a much harder and different life than I did.  I'm pretty sure he would've come around by now.

 

So happy things are turning around for you Imi.

 

Sorry to hear about your loss. I was about 25 when my dad died. He was drafted into the English army in about 1941. He asserted conscientious objector status, went through appeals and lost. I actually have the transcripts of the British court martial. He was sentenced to 9 months hard labor, all because he refused to wear the British army uniform and kill people.

[imiubu]

Wow everyone, thanks so much for sharing.

 

My Mother was my patient until she went into long term care.....I still sneak her canna caps for her breakthrough pain...HJ

Bless you HJ, you are a good man and a good son.

Are you going to HB?  Bout time we shared a smoke don't ya think?

 

My  Father smoked pot when it was Legal  pre, 1937 ,  He was a Jazz Musician.     

I imagine this helped you develop your unique taste in music, maybe?

I always listen to the vids you post up.  I dig that you post up local musicians and non mainstream music.

 

My Dad died when I was 17.  He was still pretty miffed I got caught smoking pot in 7th grade at a catholic school. Told me that everyone he new in Viet Nam that used that stuff didn't come back alive.  Thought I was stupid for using it.  Don't blame him for back then though as he had a much harder and different life than I did.  I'm pretty sure he would've come around by now.

 

So happy things are turning around for you Imi. 

Sorry to hear you lost your father at such a young age Norby.  I agree, their generation had a much more difficult life.  I don't blame my father either, his

attitude and behavior only reflected the era he grew up in.

 

Thanks

 

Sorry to hear about your loss. I was about 25 when my dad died. He was drafted into the English army in about 1941. He asserted conscientious objector status, went through appeals and lost. I actually have the transcripts of the British court martial. He was sentenced to 9 months hard labor, all because he refused to wear the British army uniform and kill people.

Very sorry for your loss Highlander.  This is incredibly insane.

 

 

 

I lost my mother when I was 28.  She was so far ahead of the times.  She taught us to be curious, to question, to use our imagination etc...

She loved science and had all kinds of projects for us.  At about age 9 she made me a wax dish and got the tools so I could dissect frogs lol.

I learned about insects, arachnids, flora, fauna, fungi and she taught me to sew.  She was our safe haven from our strict pops.

She also partook of the herbal sacraments with me upon occasion once I was older.

[phaquetoo]

Wow......Good thread!

 

It is very sad to hear about some of your story's!  Norby I feel so bad for you, we have met, your an awsome guy who is very compassionate,  Be proud bro your old man would have come around by now, He is looking down in approval now!

 

Highlander, I beleive you told me that story in person or on phone, You have some real fasinating issues that happened in your familyy life,,,,You realy need to stand tall Bro, I know how much you help people, I have personaly witnessed it!  Hey by the way I moved to houghton lake, i still have the same cell number though!  I would love to meet up some time for a chat, been a while eh?

 

I have another good friend in this site who has some horror story's about his old man!  ( he knows who im talking about) as soon as I can call him I will, but I talk to much and have alot of b.s to talk about that others with their own probs dont need to deal with!

 

 

I cant beleive my parents still love me after the hell I put them through growing up lmao!

 

Peace

Jim

[knucklehead bob]

Wow......Good thread!

 

 

 

 

I cant beleive my parents still love me after the hell I put them through growing up lmao!

 

Peace

Jim

 

 

 

Maybe because all parents were at one time kids themselves . . . . . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2016 by knucklehead bob

[phaquetoo]

I hear ya, you know I always try to put myself at my kid's age when they do certain things I dont think they should do!

 

I realy try to get them to learn from my past mistakes, but I never listened to my old man, had I listened more young in life, I realy would have had less screw ups financialy when I was younger!

 

I didnt realize my dad was smart until I was like 30!  Im a late learner lol

 

 

Peace

[GregS]

My father is 80 years old, born into prohibition, a staunch republican and very anti cannabis.

Less than 3 years ago we had harsh words where he blamed my troubled youth and all that

has gone wrong in my life on my smoking marijuana.  In that conversation he also stated

that "those boys coming home from Vietnam were idiots for smoking that marijuana".  Any

of you that know me can imagine how that lit me up.  My response was to explain the heroin

epidemic and to point out he had never been to war and will never be able to imagine the

horrors.

 

We didn't speak for nearly a year after that.

 

I love my dad, I don't like him much though.  We just do not think/ believe the same and

there has always been a deep divide between us.

 

The healing has finally begun, March 28, 2016 will be a day I will remember.

 

We talked about medical marijuana for nearly 45 minutes and he was engaged, curious

and thoughtful (is this my dad?).

 

The conversation moved through pre prohibition pharmacopeia, prohibition and why it occurred,

difference between hemp/ cannabis sativa, how the glands (trichomes) grow and those glands

hold the medicine, endocanniboid system, male/ female plants, self pollinating, the CSA/ Sched 1

status, Government patent, why smoking is the most common way to consume, pharmacuitical

companies and why they lobby against cannabis... etc...

 

We moved on to what I've learned about horticulture, chemistry, botany, microbes, converting

volts to amps so I don't overload circuits, my advocacy, activism, local government, dispensary

lobby, why most PCP don't sign certifications, Mi voted 63% for mmj, etc, etc...

 

He asked if he qualified (he does), where to get certified, what it cost, different ways to medicate

as he is not a smoker, how to access mmj, the cg/ pt system, etc...

He even asked if once he became a patient, could he legally grow 12 plants for himself!

 

Wow.

 

By the end of the conversation, he was not ready to become a mmj patient,

but the dam has burst, and the seed has been firmly planted.

I let him know that I will help but never push him.

 

My father provided us with a very nice life growing up.  The business he worked for

has been closed for several years now.  A few weeks ago I went past the building and

it looks like a dispensary is opening there.  I HAD to tell him. He laughed then told my

step mom "Hey, they are turning ___ ____ ___ into a pot shop!"

 

At that point I said "Yeah dad, the times they are a changing".

 

It saddens me to some degree that for over 40 years he would not hear me.

The media is now flooded with medical marijuana stories and it no longer bothers me

how he got the message... I am just ecstatic he has.

 

I had hoped this day would come.

 

It's never to late to talk with your parents about medical cannabis! 

You did your homework and passed the quiz with flying colors. Nice work imi.

[imiubu]

Update.

 

The word coming down the family 'grapevine' is that my pops is at the tipping point where cannabis is looking like an option for him

 

He is angry with our gov't, they lied to him.  He is angry with the entire medical system for continuing to treat him yet 'cure' nothing.

He's pizzed that the drugs they give him have so many side effects and all they do is give him more pills to counter act.

Yay, he gets it.

He wants to be more comfortable in these twilight years of this life.

I sent message that if that's the case, he should absolutely incorporate cannabis into his diet... daily.

 

I've not spoken to him and I will.  I have the distinct impression that he does not want his name on a gov't registry for cannabis.

hmmm, imagine that.

In the interim, I will suggest he take hemp oil each day to help reduce inflammation.

Then some low dose medibles in the evening to help him sleep will be incorporated into his routine.

 

Let the healing begin.