Going Topless Outdoor

[trichcycler]

You really don't need to get so crappy personal grass.

 

I was talking about these folks you would need to educate. The ones who have these enclosures without tops calling them enclosures:

 

https://www.walpolewoodworkers.com/buildings-enclosures/enclosures.aspx#.Vv0vpREpIpF

lots of your people have misconceptions, but quoting them and believing them doesn't make them true.

[Restorium2]

 

10' chain link fence with razor wire.

 

you're acting like a child resto, throwing a tantrum ,huffing to be right. you are not correct. we all know it. sorry for you.

move along please, we don't need any more censorship here on account of you.

Just curious grass, which part is a tantrum to you?

[trichcycler]

WTF?

again, no need to explain really, just move along. you're misconceptions are noted

[Restorium2]

lots of your people have misconceptions, but quoting them and believing them doesn't make them true.

Lots of people think different than you do. I wanted to show that. I think it's very good info to show. Why do you protest so hard?

[Restorium2]

again, no need to explain really, just move along. you're misconceptions are noted

Don't take this as saying YOU ARE a cop, but you are acting very overbearing and cop like. Move along? 

[trichcycler]

rules are rules, there is no ambiguity to that post. all sides.

 

nobody cares that you found others lke yourself who don't understand what those rules mean. its ok really. happens all the time to all of us. thing is, now that you know you and yours are wrong, move along right. you have nothing more to offer here, move along please

[Restorium2]

rules are rules, there is no ambiguity to that post. all sides.

 

nobody cares that you found others lke yourself who don't understand what those rules mean. its ok really. happens all the time to all of us. thing is, now that you know you and yours are wrong, move along right. you have nothing more to offer here, move along please

Did you look at the enclosures at the link I posted? Slow down and take a breath, you are all in a lather. LOL We are just people posting on the net. 

[phaquetoo]

Bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha   

[Restorium2]

Bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha   

You are going to love this one;

 

[imiubu]

Whoa, was I ever mislead by the thread title haha.

 

 

It's not like we haven't already   this subject around a few hundred times.

[Restorium2]

And then you have this from The Michigan State Police;

Definitions on legal outdoor growing are included in the Update, which says the plants cannot be seen by the unaided eye, the permanent structure must be enclosed on the sides and must be on land owned or rented by the actual caregiver themselves. It also defines legal transport of marijuana plants, including the provision that no one may be in the car except the patient or caregiver themselves during transport.

The Updates are created by the State Police. “This update is published by the Michigan State Police, Office of the Director, Legislative and Legal Resources Section.”

View the complete Update here:

MSP Legal Update No. 103

Edited March 31, 2016 by Restorium2

[Restorium2]

More basics on why a side is not a top(from 7th grade);

 

https://www.ixl.com/math/grade-7/front-side-and-top-view

[pic book]

10' fence with razor wire needs a top? Why?

you do indeed have a sharp point.

[Restorium2]

you do indeed have a sharp point.

On top of my head, right? 

[beourbud]

Since when is a side a top? Never, in the context of an Outdoor Grow

 

That MSP Definition of Outdoor is actually quite clear and practical .

[Restorium2]

Since when is a side a top? Never, in the context of an Outdoor Grow

 

That MSP Definition of Outdoor is actually quite clear and practical .

AND you could use it in court if you so choose. It's published.

[beourbud]

It's a Free Country, you can put a top on it if you want, you can test it if you want, you can have it inspected if you want.

 

But to force your wants down our throats thru mandatory inspections, testing or other restrictions is unacceptable and nonnegotiable

 

Free the Weed. Abrogate

[phaquetoo]

You are going to love this one;

 

Bawahahahahahahahahahah!

[+Malamute]

Hmm,...

 

I personally would simply put chain link or some type of wire meshing over the top.

 

For $100 it is worth it.

 

Now, the absolute 100% INTENT of the written law is that it includes all sides except the base.  Rep. Cavanaugh who wrote it stated many times it specifically meant it should have a top.  It was the whole point of stating "except the base"; including the base as a side.  Then further going onto how to secure the base by attaching or affixing to t he ground.

 

Secondly, never trust the police.  Their policy 'may' follow that, but it is for police officers, not the general publics or patients guidelines about what will be considered legal in a court room at this point.  I assume many different standards may exist in different counties at this point.

 

 Does the law state it must have a top?  By inference only.

 

Why not roll out some mesh over the top?  Or many have to put some type of view obstruction over the top to keep neighbours from being able to see it from their roof.

 

Spend a few bucks and put something over it is my opinion. Safe than sorry to me.

[t-pain]

ya $100 now or $3000 for lawyer later its up to you

[Restorium2]

What is most important is having it secure from anyone easily stealing your plants. And out of sight. Which would be common sense anyway. 

[beourbud]

What is the reasoning behind a top restriction anyway? It's rediculous.

 

It's not like a top is going to slow a ripper down, lol.

 

Why is " the base" exempt, the " industry " has a long history of tunneling.

 

The arguments about the neighbors looking down from the skyscraper next door doesn't apply out here in the country

 

These are the regs we get from those who do not have any practical "Field " experience.

 

It would make more sense if there was no top but you have to keep your plants below fence height. No limit on fence/ side height.

 

Lets just Abrogate already

Edited April 1, 2016 by beourbud

[trichcycler]

Now, the absolute 100% INTENT of the written law is that it includes all sides except the base.  Rep. Cavanaugh who wrote it stated many times it specifically meant it should have a top.  It was the whole point of stating "except the base"; including the base as a side.  Then further going onto how to secure the base by attaching or affixing to t he ground.

 

Secondly, never trust the police.

well, since you say it that way......must be true!

 

facts are facts.

don't have to like it.

 

thank you Mal for reiterating my point

 

please carry on though, some yelling at the forum level may just change the very clearly written rule after all.

who trusts the police anyways? oh yeah....I remember

[beourbud]

are tops described in our rules?

The dispensaries ,medibles , extractions are not described in our rules either.

 

Why do you feel you need to include them?

 

If they were intended they should have been better described so we can follow the rules.

We are sick of the courts redefining and fabricating irrational, ownerous restrictions.

 

So many times your people want to interpret the law in your favor.

 

We aren't taking it anymore, Move Along

Edited April 1, 2016 by beourbud

[AmishRnot4ganja]

So I suppose that, since no where is it specified of what the top and sides must be constructed, I could do a light weave of hemp cord to construct the top.

 

Then when I go to court I can say, " Yes, my structure was enclosed on the top. The top is made out of woven hemp cord. Quite artsy-craftsy actually your Honor."

 

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