Why Are Hops Acceptable And Cannabis Is The Devil?

[t-pain]

told family i was going to grow some hops this year, they said oh ok, nice.

 

family found out i was growing cannabis a couple years ago and they freaked.

 

why are hops acceptable and cannabis isnt?

its the same plant family.

 

yet alcohol kills hundreds of thousands each year in the world, while cannabis kills zero.

[beourbud]

told family i was going to grow some hops this year, they said oh ok, nice.family found out i was growing cannabis a couple years ago and they freaked.why are hops acceptable and cannabis isnt?its the same plant family.yet alcohol kills hundreds of thousands each year in the world, while cannabis kills zero.

Right On

[suneday11]

What kind are you thinking, t? I grow hops and would suggest great lakes hops. They sell beefy crowns and field grade plants.

[t-pain]

got some off some guy. tettnang, cascade and nugget.

 

was looking for seeds though. got any hops seeds?

[GregS]

Hops are nothing more than a flavoring ingredient with a mild pronounced psychotropic effect. There is what is called the "lupulin effect" that produces sedation. For instance putting some in a porous bag beside near your head at bedtime is reported to help with sleep.

 

http://www.drugs.com/npc/hops.html

[Kingdiamond]

Lobbyists throwing money at everyone and anyone that regulates  it thats why.

[suneday11]

got some off some guy. tettnang, cascade and nugget.was looking for seeds though. got any hops seeds?

no seeds. Homebrewers forum would be a good place to look. Or shoot an email out to great lakes. Real cool dudes.

[garyfisher]

hops dont produce seeds.  You wont find any seeds available anywhere.  I've grown hops for 8 years now. 

[t-pain]

hops dont produce seeds.  You wont find any seeds available anywhere.  I've grown hops for 8 years now.

you know theres male vines and female vines right (well bines.). just like the cannabis plant right?

 

yeah if you grow female clones you never get seeds. but seeds do exist ! not for named varieties because the hops people arent as advanced as the cannabis farmers. more people grow weed than hops. the only people growing hops are growing it for beer, not for the plant , and the roots are pretty easy to propagate, unlike the seeds apparently.

 

and the seeds look like cannabis seeds.

 

 

 

 

http://climbers.lsa.umich.edu/?p=184

 

http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=HUJA

 

https://www.sheffields.com/seeds/Humulus/lupulus

 

http://www.seedbank.re.kr/detail.php?seed=1151

[t-pain]

the description of the hops plant seems to imply that there are no animals that eat the seeds from the hops. but i've heard deer chomp on the hops (or the bines).

 

maybe there was a species of animal that used to eat the seeds from this plant. maybe that species is long gone now?

[Spartyon]

my neighbor been growing hops for years moved them from my fence line to his new gazebo he built.  hops still cover my fence line every year my dogs love them.

[Willy]

you know theres male vines and female vines right (well bines.). just like the cannabis plant right?

 

yeah if you grow female clones you never get seeds. but seeds do exist ! not for named varieties because the hops people arent as advanced as the cannabis farmers. more people grow weed than hops. the only people growing hops are growing it for beer, not for the plant , and the roots are pretty easy to propagate, unlike the seeds apparently.

 

and the seeds look like cannabis seeds.

 

 

 

 

 

http://climbers.lsa.umich.edu/?p=184

 

http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=HUJA

 

https://www.sheffields.com/seeds/Humulus/lupulus

 

http://www.seedbank.re.kr/detail.php?seed=1151

 

wonder if  a guy could have fun with these ..lol and a bag of tops of hops..lol

Edited April 15, 2016 by Willy

[GregS]

no seeds. Homebrewers forum would be a good place to look. Or shoot an email out to great lakes. Real cool dudes.

Hops are typically propagated with rhizomes rather than seed.

 

http://www.northernbrewer.com/documentation/HopRhizomes.pdf

[Hydraulic Jack]

my neighbor been growing hops for years moved them from my fence line to his new gazebo he built.  hops still cover my fence line every year my dogs love them.

 

You don't want your dogs eating hops....HJ

 

http://www.northernbrewer.com/connect/2012/01/a-warning-about-dogs-and-hops/

[suneday11]

Hops are typically propagated with rhizomes rather than seed.

 

http://www.northernbrewer.com/documentation/HopRhizomes.pdf

thing of the past, my man. Field grade hops plants or crowns are way more viable and just as cheap. No sticks in the mud for me.

 

http://www.greatlakeshops.com/

[garyfisher]

I've got plenty of hop rhizome if people are in need.

[garyfisher]

thing of the past, my man. Field grade hops plants or crowns are way more viable and just as cheap. No sticks in the mud for me.

 

http://www.greatlakeshops.com/

Rhizomes can be had for under $3 each.   Once a rhizome grows out you can easily propogate hundreds of cuttings.

[suneday11]

Rhizomes can be had for under $3 each.   Once a rhizome grows out you can easily propogate hundreds of cuttings.

yup, as I did years ago. I'm after new varieties and tested plants. Not many in the way of rhizomes yet.

[suneday11]

I appreciate you guys trying to learn me on the subject, but I'm good. Nothing against rhizomes. I have four in my patch that were from rhizome. Some of the crowns and plants that I've added are established first season. I brewed with hops from a field grade plant in year one. Not getting that with a rhizome. Hops tested and sold to commercial hops farms nationwide...yup, I'm on that.

Many of those michigan only beers you've enjoyed were done with hops that came from great lakes. Cheers.

Edited April 15, 2016 by suneday11

[t-pain]

got humulus lupulus aka regular common beer hops seeds. the seeds are about 1/4th the size of cannabis seeds.

 

hop seed sales, just because i was bored (no idea if these stores are legit)

https://www.richters.com/Web_store/web_store.cgi?product=X3300

https://seedrack.com/05.html

http://www.rarexoticseeds.com/en/humulus-lupulus-seeds-common-hop-seeds.html

http://www.allrareherbs.com.au/products/Hop,-seed.html

http://www.myseeds.co/hops-humulus-lupulus-seeds-brew-your-own-beer-today-comes-back-every-year-plants-develops-rhizomes-zones-3-8/

http://sacredseed.com/products/hops-seed-pack-humulus-lupulus

http://www.outsidepride.com/seed/flower-seed/hops-seeds.html

humulus japonicus (japanese hops) are an annual plant vs the humulus lupulus (common hop) which is a perennial.

 

japanese hops seem to be invasive and grow wild here in michigan. wonder how those seeds are.

[GregS]

I have a LOAD of homebrew equipment that I cannot use any more. There is a fifteen gallon mash tun with stainless ball valve and stainless false bottom, copper wort chiller, a fifteen gallon boil pot, a fifteen, a five, and a three gallon glass carboy, ale buckets, a mounted table top capper, swing tops, champaign bottles, Two 5 gallon soda kegs with 5 lb CO2 tank, regulator, and lines, a propane burner, and just about every utensil and device necessary to brew. If interested, let me know.

[Hydraulic Jack]

I have a LOAD of homebrew equipment that I cannot use any more. There is a fifteen gallon mash tun with stainless ball valve and stainless false bottom, copper wort chiller, a fifteen gallon boil pot, a fifteen, a five, and a three gallon glass carboy, ale buckets, a mounted table top capper, swing tops, champaign bottles, Two 5 gallon soda kegs with 5 lb CO2 tank, regulator, and lines, a propane burner, and just about every utensil and device necessary to brew. If interested, let me know.

I have all of that and then some....LOL..............HJ