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Marijuana is an addictive and hazardous drug. But lately, some have taken to proclaiming that "marijuana is safer than alcohol," a message that is not only wrong but dangerous.

According to the Arizona Department of Health Services, in a study that examines all deaths in Arizona of children under the age of 18, a disturbing number of child deaths resulted from substance use. It was linked to the deaths of 128 of Arizona's children in 2013.

Guess which substance was the most prevalent? Not alcohol, not methamphetamine (although they were close seconds), but marijuana. In 2013, marijuana use was associated with the tragic and needless deaths of 62 children in Arizona.

The point is this: Prevention, not legalization, remains the best model for addressing drug abuse. Approximately 7.5 percent of Americans regularly use marijuana while 52 percent use alcohol, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Why raise the first number to the second?

If you legalize marijuana, more kids will use it

Marijuana today is far more potent than decades past. It poses significant and real threats to the development of the adolescent brain, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

It negatively impacts memory, learning, attention and reaction time — basic skills for our students — and its effects linger even after the intoxication is gone. Research concludes that marijuana use causes a loss of up to eight IQ points in those who start young and use it over the long term.

Legalization of marijuana means more kids will use it. Colorado, where the reckless experiment with legal retail marijuana is unfolding, has seen its youth use rate skyrocket. Colorado students ages 12 to 17 use marijuana at a rate that is 38 percent higher than the national average. While the rest of the country saw a slight increase (less than half a percent) in use of marijuana by folks ages 12 and older from 2012-13, Colorado's rate jumped 22 percent.

 

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http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2015/06/15/safe-pot-tell-kids-died/71267330/

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they explain where the number came from here

 

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/fact-check/2015/08/10/sheila-polk-marijuana-deaths-fact-check/31316285/

 

altho the linked pdf is missing. i will try to find it.

 

it cites the 2014 report. wheres that?

 

2015 report:

 

http://www.azdhs.gov/documents/prevention/womens-childrens-health/reports-fact-sheets/child-fatality-review-annual-reports/cfr-annual-report-2015.pdf

 

the az child fatality generally talks about motor vehicle accidents, drownings, SIDS, premature pregnancy, abuse, suicides, homicides, guns etc.

 

havent seen anything about marijuana.

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Did marijuana actually kill 62 kids in Arizona? Or...  

EJ Montini, The Republic | azcentral.com 3:20 p.m. MST June 17, 2015
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Just how deadly a killer is marijuana? Not a single person has ever died from a weed overdose. According to one frequently cited study, a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times

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A killer weed? (Photo: AP)

If you happened to read a guest editorial in Tuesday's Arizona Republic by Yavapai County Attorney Sheila Polk you might have come away believing that marijuana use killed 62 kids in Arizona in 2013.

Polk has no real proof of that, of course, hedging her bets with the word "associated." It's good work. But all her essay proves is that Polk wants to be like … me.

The Yavapai prosecutor is serving as vice chairwoman of Arizonans for Responsible Drug Policy, and is doing everything she can to make the case against marijuana legalization. She's not making that argument in a hall of justice, however, but in the court of public opinion, where (as I well know) a bland set of facts can be made palatable with a heaping helping of spiced baloney.

In her essay, for example, Polk writes, "In 2013, marijuana use was associated with the tragic and needless deaths of 62 children in Arizona."

Wow. That's a pretty startling figure. I mean, if marijuana killed 62 kids don't you think that might have made, you know, the news?

RELATED: County Attorney Sheila Polk's controversial column

Here's the deal. Polk is using as a reference a report by the Arizona Child Fatality Review Program. The report notes that 811 children under 18 died in Arizona in 2013. How they died is then broken down. Mistreatment. Prematurity. Drowning. Firearms. Motor Vehicles. And so on. The report also notes the number of kids whose deaths had some relation to drugs.

It says, "The CFR program defines substance use as associated with a child's death if the child, the child's parent, caretaker and/or if the person responsible for the death, during or about the time of the incident leading to the death, used or abused substances, including illegal drugs, prescription drugs, and/or alcohol."

So, it's not necessarily a child who is using the drugs. And it's often a combination of substances. That's why Polk says marijuana is "associated" with 62 deaths.

What does "associated" mean?

According to the report, "Although substance use is a known risk factor in child fatalities, it is important to remember the term associated is used because it is not always clear if or how the substance use had a direct or contributing effect on the fatality incident."

So, maybe the drug contributed, maybe it didn't. Not the kind of evidence Polk would present in a courtroom.

The report adds, "Although there was a rise in associated marijuana use over alcohol in 2013, this may not be indicative of a new trend as the reported percentages of these two substances fluctuate from year to year. It was also usually a combination of some of these substances and not just one, which played a part in the fatality incident."

What? We can't totally trust the numbers? Again, not exactly courtroom-worthy evidence.

Polk concludes her essay, "It is unconscionable to experiment with legalization on Arizona's youth. Those 62 children whose lives were snuffed out in 2013 would certainly agree."

So, not only can those who are opposed to marijuana legalization fiddle with the facts, they can also speak for the dead?

And I thought it was stoners who were supposed to lose touch with reality.

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why? Its going to draw hundreds to the site...a perfect opportunity to share accurate information, dispel the anti's rumors. i know bob didnt believe what he copied/pasted

 

peace

 

Im not blaming bob, in fact great find bob!

 

I dont think we should use the same messed up lying title that the lying author used, make a title, than in the op tell the real title to her news story or essay!

 

It is misleading and we dont need any more non sense saying mm killed kids,

 

I bet I can find at least 100 articles in the us that kids died from dr. prescribed narcotics, but you cant find one article that proves some one died from mmj!

 

We should not help them spread bad names and titles, we should be making swiss cheese out of all of them!

 

Peace

 

p.s it does not help our movement having titles like this in our site, unless of course they were true and we were trying to keep people away from mmj!

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I feel it is important to address and shine the truth on these types of false reporting.

 

Yep, and the article is getting absolutely SLAMMED in the comments. This now seems to be the rule rather than the exception with these anti-mj articles, so the vast majority of people no longer believe in this propaganda. Which is good. Unfortunately, these lies have been going on for so long that even legitimate science is met by skepticism or outright disbelief by the masses.

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Im not blaming bob, in fact great find bob!

 

I dont think we should use the same messed up lying title that the lying author used, make a title, than in the op tell the real title to her news story or essay!

 

It is misleading and we dont need any more non sense saying mm killed kids,

 

I bet I can find at least 100 articles in the us that kids died from dr. prescribed narcotics, but you cant find one article that proves some one died from mmj!

 

We should not help them spread bad names and titles, we should be making swiss cheese out of all of them!

 

Peace

 

p.s it does not help our movement having titles like this in our site, unless of course they were true and we were trying to keep people away from mmj!

I agree phaq.

the world is full of misinformation. the antis take every opportunity to stall human progression. they stop at nothing to squash medical research. How do they  thrive when they see babies having seizures that cannot be helped with modern medicine, cured with a dose of cannabis preparations? they hoped we'd stay in fuzzy pot leafs forever, but nope, the jig is up, the buds out of the bag! look around, patients are happier and healthier than ever!  we're serious, more than ever!  We are positive now that this cannabis prohibition is a lie, a huge lie. They dont know how to get out of the lie. Legalizing the plant will only lead to awesome discoveries, most embarrassing to those supporting the war on us, steal our children, rob us of our foods and shelters, take our cars, call our jobs, and aim laser guided weapons at our toddlers in the middle of the night.

Cannabis users and words are  getting out now and helping others. The anti's see the unraveling of their supreme workings. Lynch wrote to keep the slaves hating each other, brown eyes hating blue ones, light skin blacks hating on the dark skinned ones....its worked, ever since, to keep us apart, to keep Americans apart! United....this corruption would end.  The anti's now see that we see through it, cannabis is bringing people together despite their war on the plant. The world slowly sees our follies, with cannabis, flouride, ancient 1930's chemotherapy, radical radiation and corporate conspiracy, purposeful fda approved food and drug poisoning, education, private prisons, terrorism, cocaine, heroin and most every issue plaguing us, a result of a few corrupt politicians, about 600 of them is all that can accept bribes in the form of lobby-ism .   We'll soon all be free, free of the anti's tyranny. 

 

But what they fear is the financial devastation when soon medical cannabis replaces their beloved pharmaceuticals, topples their Pharmaceutical Corpocracy and deletes their income, from big pharma investments, private prisons, and more. Shame comes to all who wish to impose their will on another. that is precisely what every politician does today. to hell with every one of them, and all who aspire to be them. phaqing eh!!

 

i had this dream....

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Yep, and the article is getting absolutely SLAMMED in the comments. This now seems to be the rule rather than the exception with these anti-mj articles, so the vast majority of people no longer believe in this propaganda. Which is good. Unfortunately, these lies have been going on for so long that even legitimate science is met by skepticism or outright disbelief by the masses.

problem is though, they arent talking points directed to us, rather directed to other anti's, with huge open wide ears and hearts. We know better, but those who make laws and policy do not listen to us, they hear the anti's. the masses have always known of this.

we're not small, we're just on our knees.

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problem is though, they arent talking points directed to us, rather directed to other anti's, with huge open wide ears and hearts. We know better, but those who make laws and policy do not listen to us, they hear the anti's. the masses have always known of this.

we're not small, we're just on our knees.

 

No matter, they're fighting a losing battle.

 

National Support For Marijuana Legalization Reaches All-Time High

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Id like to c a study showing an increase in use by kids. Everything iv seen out of ca, co, and mt showed no increases in use. They used the 'more kids/save the kids' mantra in mt to eviscerate their mmj bill, only to have a census show a little decrease in overall use by kids during the initial years of their law. Crazy... Old world scare tactics... That seems to still work

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I agree phaq.

the world is full of misinformation. the antis take every opportunity to stall human progression. they stop at nothing to squash medical research. How do they  thrive when they see babies having seizures that cannot be helped with modern medicine, cured with a dose of cannabis preparations? they hoped we'd stay in fuzzy pot leafs forever, but nope, the jig is up, the buds out of the bag! look around, patients are happier and healthier than ever!  we're serious, more than ever!  We are positive now that this cannabis prohibition is a lie, a huge lie. They dont know how to get out of the lie. Legalizing the plant will only lead to awesome discoveries, most embarrassing to those supporting the war on us, steal our children, rob us of our foods and shelters, take our cars, call our jobs, and aim laser guided weapons at our toddlers in the middle of the night.

Cannabis users and words are  getting out now and helping others. The anti's see the unraveling of their supreme workings. Lynch wrote to keep the slaves hating each other, brown eyes hating blue ones, light skin blacks hating on the dark skinned ones....its worked, ever since, to keep us apart, to keep Americans apart! United....this corruption would end.  The anti's now see that we see through it, cannabis is bringing people together despite their war on the plant. The world slowly sees our follies, with cannabis, flouride, ancient 1930's chemotherapy, radical radiation and corporate conspiracy, purposeful fda approved food and drug poisoning, education, private prisons, terrorism, cocaine, heroin and most every issue plaguing us, a result of a few corrupt politicians, about 600 of them is all that can accept bribes in the form of lobby-ism .   We'll soon all be free, free of the anti's tyranny. 

 

But what they fear is the financial devastation when soon medical cannabis replaces their beloved pharmaceuticals, topples their Pharmaceutical Corpocracy and deletes their income, from big pharma investments, private prisons, and more. Shame comes to all who wish to impose their will on another. that is precisely what every politician does today. to hell with every one of them, and all who aspire to be them. phaqing eh!!

 

i had this dream....

Holy S hit Bat Man!  Bawahahahahahahaha!

 

Do you feel better?  How in the phaq do you write so fast and mad and come out with that^^^^^^^lol!

 

Im out of breath just reading it lol!

 

Peace

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Holy S hit Bat Man!  Bawahahahahahahaha!

 

Do you feel better?  How in the phaq do you write so fast and mad and come out with that^^^^^^^lol!

 

Im out of breath just reading it lol!

 

Peace

I aint mad, not since I inhaled my one hitter after forgetting to put a new screen it it.

breath, just breath........

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