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http://www.wilx.com/content/news/MI-Legalize-turns-in-signatures-to-state-officials-381575251.html

 

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/06/01/michigan-pot-legalization-signatures/85266962/

 

http://michiganradio.org/post/pro-marijuana-group-delivers-signatures-put-legalization-november-ballot

 

http://www.thecannabist.co/2016/06/02/michigan-marijuana-signatures/55384/

 

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/pro-marijuana_groups_signature.html

 

the fight is not over. you've seen first hand the length that prohibitionists have gone to keep marijuana illegal.

 

here is the plan:

180 day rule is unconstitutional

sb776 is also unconstitutional

 

both of these will be fought in court.

 

unfortunately, it looks like no one else made the ballot this year.

MCC missed the deadline for this year.

abrogate is still collecting signatures until july 8th.

 

anti-fracking did not collect enough signatures either.

 

i dont think any other petition made it for the 2016 ballot.

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_2016_ballot_measures

http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_41221_62581-339877--,00.html

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i'm sorry, you are correct. july would be abrogate's turn in date deadline. i always get the constitution amendment laws mixed up.

 

Amendment petitions must be filed 120 days prior to the election. Petitions for statutes must be filed 160 days prior to the election, allowing the legislators 40 days to pass the proposed law.

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governing_the_initiative_process_in_Michigan#Deadlines_for_collection

 

tim says that the deadline for abrogate is july 11th to get on nov ballot.

http://rollitup.org/t/abrogate-prohibition-michigan-2016.874730/page-7#post-12582055

 

if you have not yet signed abrogate, there are instructions for printing your ballot or signing it at abrogate website http://www.michican.us

good luck to abrogate!

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Congratulations!!!  this is great, good work by all involved. We are all very grateful for your efforts.

 

After reading the plain language in the petition I'm left with one Question-

 

The language refers often to Marihuana Establishments including 
 

 

(g) “Marihuana establishment” means a marihuana product manufacturing facility, a marihuana testing facility, or a marihuana store.

 

(h) “Marihuana product manufacturing facility” means a person or entity licensed to cultivate, acquire, manufacture, prepare, package or transfer marihuana or marihuana products to other marihuana establishments.

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(k) “Marihuana store” means a person or entity licensed to acquire and sell marihuana or marihuana products to consumers or to other marihuana  establishments. A marijuana product manufacturing facility may also be a marijuana store if allowed by the locality.

 

 

 

But at the same time clarifies that a person can only grow or possess 12 plants.....

 

I can't find any detail on how a "manufacturing facility" could produce more than 12 plants?  nor detail on how the "stores" would be supplied?

 

How do the petitioners envision all that legal weed being grown to supply the stores??

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So the legislature or some other agency (LARA) could just decide one grow op owned by Phillip Morris (Altria) should grow for the whole state? and anyone with more than 12 plants would be a Moonshiner?

Yes. And they could put a moratorium on a new passed proposal for years while they are figuring out what they think is best for Michigan. Then totally change it into what they want it to look like. The governor and the attorney general have the power to define it with their pet legislature.

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Congratulations!!!  this is great, good work by all involved. We are all very grateful for your efforts.

 

After reading the plain language in the petition I'm left with one Question-

 

The language refers often to Marihuana Establishments including 

 

 

But at the same time clarifies that a person can only grow or possess 12 plants.....

 

I can't find any detail on how a "manufacturing facility" could produce more than 12 plants?  nor detail on how the "stores" would be supplied?

 

How do the petitioners envision all that legal weed being grown to supply the stores??

http://www.milegalize.com/read_the

 

its in the preamble:

to authorize local units of government to adopt limited regulation of marihuana facilities and stores; and to require the promulgation of rules.

 

and then section 11:

 

Sec. 11. Localities may adopt rules necessary to implement this act and may allow or prohibit the operation of marihuana establishments. The rules shall not make their operation unreasonably impracticable. The rules shall include:

 

 

the localities implement the marijuana establishments rules. not the state.

 

milegalize very specifically says people growing 12 plants must not make marijuana available for sale.

 

much like how people who homebrew beer are not supposed to sell alcohol without a license.

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Yes. And they could put a moratorium on a new passed proposal for years while they are figuring out what they think is best for Michigan. Then totally change it into what they want it to look like. The governor and the attorney general have the power to define it with their pet legislature.

they could also make marshal law anytime they want. but that has not happened in oregon, colorado, alaska, washington, washington d.c. ...

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didn't sb660 Mark the beginning of the end of the mmma?

I don't know, t. But to answer my own question. 2 years. Them medical folks got 2 years to keep passing around that untested crap (sarc)! I'm guessing we won't even get that. At least not with the medical community as divided as it is here. Edited by suneday11
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Congratulations!!!  this is great, good work by all involved. We are all very grateful for your efforts.

 

After reading the plain language in the petition I'm left with one Question-

 

The language refers often to Marihuana Establishments including 

 

 

But at the same time clarifies that a person can only grow or possess 12 plants.....

 

I can't find any detail on how a "manufacturing facility" could produce more than 12 plants?  nor detail on how the "stores" would be supplied?

 

How do the petitioners envision all that legal weed being grown to supply the stores??

The 12 plant limit is for every adult over 21. To grow for resale you must become licensed by your local community and their regulations. Lansing has nothing to say about it.

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Yes. And they could put a moratorium on a new passed proposal for years while they are figuring out what they think is best for Michigan. Then totally change it into what they want it to look like. The governor and the attorney general have the power to define it with their pet legislature.

They could do that TODAY and they will if MiLeglize does not make the ballot.

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If you only have access to 12 plants, grow them ladies big. That's the best way in my opinion, I just love those liter/two-liter size cola's.

Why would any recreational user need any more than 12 plants? 6 plants? 2 plants? Keep in mind that the act would change the definition of "plant" to those that are greater than 12 inches in height or width. This should apply to medical patients and their caregivers.  There should be tons of free pot available, anywhere you go. I envision organised harvest parties where growers can share and be showered with food, drink and love. OK I might be dreaming but the wheels are turning.

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I have the same issue with the milegalize bill. I envision ann arbor ypsilanti being the only places to have recreational grow ops and store fronts. A year from now itll be twisted and full of case laws that make it meaningless.

You maybe right but the maximum penalty will be $100 Once the local governments get used to the 20% of the tax money, things will get interesting.

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(b) Cultivating, growing, harvesting, possessing, propagating, processing, or transporting 12 or fewer marihuana plants, each of which is at least 12 inches high or 12 inches in diameter, and possessing the marihuana derived from those plants. The plants must be grown in a manner so as to reasonably prevent unauthorized access to or harvesting of the plants, and the marihuana produced from the plants must not be made available for sale.

 

It says to me don't let people rob you not that nobody can come in? Sec. Is ver interesting .

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oh unauthorized access. so your wife is authorized.

A little confusion on this? No problem. Just revert to what we already know, how the legislature defined it last time. Same rules will apply. The definition of crazy is trying the same thing again in the same situation and expecting a different outcome. Maybe a meteor will take out our legislature and we can get some new ideas and decisions? Until then we have the same law makers. It's like having the same bakers. Expect the same cooking. 

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