Toxins In Concentrate Vapor?

[legacy]

Does concentrate vapor typically contain carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide? 

[bax]

since those are gasses that we breathe every day, it wouldnt surprise me to see them show up in minute amounts.

 

http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/co2.html

 

"Many common devices produce carbon monoxide, including cars, gas appliances, wood stoves and cigarettes, especially if used in a confined space."

Edited July 29, 2016 by bax

[Restorium2]

If you do it right the vapor is 95% cannabinoids.

Edited July 29, 2016 by Restorium2

[legacy]

I've heard concentrates can be 95% cannabinoids. I'm wondering if CO or CO2 might be produced during the vaporizing phase. 

[GrowGoddess]

I would think that if the concentrate was not decarbed it would produce CO2 as it is heated, as long as it was not burned. This is in reference to an e-liquid mix. I suppose it would be the same as in dabbing, but you would have to be more cautious not to burn the concentrate as burning would then more than likely produce CO.

I have a device (e-cigg) that is temperature controlled. You set the temperature of the coil and it will not exceed the set temp. Such as a stainless steel, nickel, or titanium coil.

[Norby]

If it's not decarbed it produces cooh as it's being decarbed?  Isn't that a co2 and h?

[zachw]

Formaldehyde is one of a number of carcinogenic compounds that can result from vaporizing various ecig liquids. The biggest culprit seems to be flavorings.

 

But even just PG may create problems when vaporized:

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160727090357.htm

 

Here some chemistry for any of you wonks:

 

http://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/14771/how-does-propylene-glycol-glycerin-form-formaldehyde-acetaldehyde-when-vaporized

 

This is from a study done in 1947 where they had a bunch of monkeys & rats breathing high concentrations of PG vapor for up to 1-1/2 years and concluded that it's harmless:

 

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/91/1/52.abstract

 

But keep in mind that vaporization products depends highly on temperature and the above study may not reflect the compounds found from vaping.

Edited July 30, 2016 by zachw

[GrowGoddess]

If it's not decarbed it produces cooh as it's being decarbed?  Isn't that a co2 and h?

 

looks safe to me 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxylic_acid

[GrowGoddess]

Formaldehyde is one of a number of carcinogenic compounds that can result from vaporizing various ecig liquids. The biggest culprit seems to be flavorings.

 

But even just PG may create problems when vaporized:

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160727090357.htm

 

 

You're right.

 

I would say the most dangerous component of e-cigg juice is the flavorings. Unless you know what you are doing and make your own with natural products. Most of the e-cigg juice bottles don't even say what the flavorings are let alone what they are made of.

 

I have been using natural flavorings and VG and mixing my own.

 

Although, I can't say I have heard of anyone having a problem aside from allergies to PG.