Sb 813 Rec Bill

[free420country]

I can't believe it's not on here, I would post links but don't know how

[free420country]

I just read it and it's got good and bad in it

 

 

Stuff I like is that they define the plant, looks like your alowed 5 mature plants and small ones don't count

 

No solvent seperation except by water

 

Tax and regulate for everyone over 21

[free420country]

I also wonder if as a caregiver if I can have a separate rec grow?

[Indigro]

Wow... Can anyone say master plan? Going to read it now, thanks free!

 

Here's the text link...

 

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2015-2016/billintroduced/Senate/pdf/2016-SIB-0813.pdf

[free420country]

Found it on rollitup site, I was saying the same thing over there about the provisioning center bill, that it was a set up to rec law their way not ours

Edited September 17, 2016 by free420country

[Indigro]

Thanks again, free.

 

Its odd w the timing and all... I wonder how long they anticipate this bill needing to sit around before they push it? How it will coexist w the new bill packages and all.

 

Section 21 taxes will be altered...? They want a 50 per oz wholesale tax between the grower and all others (processing/lounges/retail)... 800 per lb! Wowzers, talk about inflating prices. Yet no mention of a sales tax? Maybe i missed it

[free420country]

I'm going to read it again in the morning and see what pops out at me them

[CedarSpringsCG]

Thanks again, free.

 

Its odd w the timing and all... I wonder how long they anticipate this bill needing to sit around before they push it? How it will coexist w the new bill packages and all.

 

Section 21 taxes will be altered...? They want a 50 per oz wholesale tax between the grower and all others (processing/lounges/retail)... 800 per lb! Wowzers, talk about inflating prices. Yet no mention of a sales tax? Maybe i missed it

Timing of it?  This was introduced in February...  This isn't new, it just sucks.

[free420country]

Timing of it? This was introduced in February... This isn't new, it just sucks.

First time I have heard about it,sorry if it's old news

Edited September 17, 2016 by free420country

[t-pain]

introduced along side irwins bill in the house.

 

both are Sat on in committee. DOA

 

republicans aren't going to legalize marijuana, how could you forget that?

[+Malamute]

Not even worth the time of reading.

[cristinew]

"nonmedical marihuana code".

[Blkwlf]

Both Rep. and Dem are going to hurt us here in MI. Whether it goes Rec or not, they're going to try to get their bite of it and they're going to knock us caregivers out of the loop. They want taxes, plain & simple!!! They also want big business involved. No provisions for those without the initial cash layout to get in on the action. As far as I'm concerned, this just brings back the illegal growers. Michigan can't get their Medical regulated properly to allow legal dispenseries let alone taking it further and bigger!!!! Until Michigan can get their heads out of their arses and LEGALIZE medical allowing growers to sell to anyone with a medical card instead of just their patients and they can agree to legalize dispeneries, not leaving it up to local juristiction, any further regulations are going to be a huge mess. Growers can't even legally sell to dispeneries and dispenserie can't legallly sell to anyone who's not their patients. That's how they shut down a dispensery in Shiawassee Co. as well as one in Bay City area and 1 more I don't remember it's exact location. Small caregivers will be forced to go back underground if they require all these extra fees on sales. How are they supposed to know how much weight any single grower has sold at any given time? There are so many different bills dealing with medical and recreational right now and they're all a mess and all bad news for us if they pass. At least that's what I got out of reading them.

[t-pain]

well democrats, on the national level just added "a reasoned pathway to legalization" in their party policy.

 

while republicans just called porn a "public health crisis" in their national party policy.

 

so until we have more independents, we are stuck in a two party system, blkwlf

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Do you still think democrats are against legalization? the house bill submitted this year was for legalization by dem jeff irwin ann arbor.

 

dem senator young from detroit submitted a Michigan Senate bill to legalize marijuana as well. That's what this thread is discussing

 

both democratic party bills sit untouched in republican majority michigan house and Senate.

 

so be very careful when you suggest rep and dem are the same on marijuana here in this state. because you are utterly wrong

[AmishRnot4ganja]

Once again, the party of "small government conservatism" whips up some new big government regulations. Give me a break! Republicans are blatant hippocrites.

[phaquetoo]

I can't believe it's not on here, I would post links but don't know how

look up at the top of your screen, the bar that says http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org    right click your mouse on it and it will turn blue. and a little box will come up, choose copy,,,,go to here and paiste it on your post, thread, ect and it will post your link,  Im sure there are easier ways but thats how I do it!

 

Welcome to the site!

 

Peace      

Edited September 19, 2016 by phaquetoo

[phaquetoo]

Thanks again, free.

 

Its odd w the timing and all... I wonder how long they anticipate this bill needing to sit around before they push it? How it will coexist w the new bill packages and all.

 

Section 21 taxes will be altered...? They want a 50 per oz wholesale tax between the grower and all others (processing/lounges/retail)... 800 per lb! Wowzers, talk about inflating prices. Yet no mention of a sales tax? Maybe i missed it

when the idiot or if the idiot signs the changes to the law, there will be a 6% sales tax on it like every thing else, the buyers from the liscensed growers I beleive have to pay a 4% tax on the purchase, than when they sell it to pt's and c.g's they charge 6% just like every thing else we buy,,,,,accept for food of course!  maybe we should get it to be a not prepared food so we dont have to pay the sales tax and only the distribution centers will pay the 4% sin tax!

 

blah blah blah!  pull down your pants every one we are about to get fuckedintheass!

 

Peace

[t-pain]

anyways we had a thread on this in feb when the bill was introduced

 

http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/topic/50123-bill-would-legalize-recreational-mj-in-michigan

[phaquetoo]

Both Rep. and Dem are going to hurt us here in MI. Whether it goes Rec or not, they're going to try to get their bite of it and they're going to knock us caregivers out of the loop. They want taxes, plain & simple!!! They also want big business involved. No provisions for those without the initial cash layout to get in on the action. As far as I'm concerned, this just brings back the illegal growers. Michigan can't get their Medical regulated properly to allow legal dispenseries let alone taking it further and bigger!!!! Until Michigan can get their heads out of their arses and LEGALIZE medical allowing growers to sell to anyone with a medical card instead of just their patients and they can agree to legalize dispeneries, not leaving it up to local juristiction, any further regulations are going to be a huge mess. Growers can't even legally sell to dispeneries and dispenserie can't legallly sell to anyone who's not their patients. That's how they shut down a dispensery in Shiawassee Co. as well as one in Bay City area and 1 more I don't remember it's exact location. Small caregivers will be forced to go back underground if they require all these extra fees on sales. How are they supposed to know how much weight any single grower has sold at any given time? There are so many different bills dealing with medical and recreational right now and they're all a mess and all bad news for us if they pass. At least that's what I got out of reading them.

The laws dont limit c.g's or pt's any more than what they do now, they are keeping c.g's and pt's exchanges tax free, a c.g can be a grower to sell to despensarry's or what ever they are going to call despenses now,,,,,,,,,no changes as of yet for c.g's and pt's, everything remains the same this time around lol!

 

a c.g can recoup cost's of growing from there pt's, just like they can now, all of the c.g's and pt growers who are supplying the despense's will not be allowed to supply despenses just like now, (despesensarry's are ilegal remember)

 

 read and reread the bills they passed, but you may as well wait untill butt head signs them, Im not so sure he is going to sign them w/o a 9 mill to his head lol!

 

Peace

[Willy]

 read and reread the bills they passed, but you may as well wait untill butt head signs them, Im not so sure he is going to sign them w/o a 9 mill to his head lol!

 

Peace

he's got one.. but its only 8.5 mil... thanks to the mmj fund from laura..    Money works on all republicans...lol

Edited September 19, 2016 by Willy

[CedarSpringsCG]

The laws dont limit c.g's or pt's any more than what they do now, they are keeping c.g's and pt's exchanges tax free, a c.g can be a grower to sell to despensarry's or what ever they are going to call despenses now,,,,,,,,,no changes as of yet for c.g's and pt's, everything remains the same this time around lol!

 

a c.g can recoup cost's of growing from there pt's, just like they can now, all of the c.g's and pt growers who are supplying the despense's will not be allowed to supply despenses just like now, (despesensarry's are ilegal remember)

 

 read and reread the bills they passed, but you may as well wait untill butt head signs them, Im not so sure he is going to sign them w/o a 9 mill to his head lol!

 

Peace

Unfortunately they do add more crimes, like transporting without a manifest, can't make BHO near a residence, etc...  So they did change and limit what a CG/PT can do.

[cristinew]

Unfortunately they do add more crimes, like transporting without a manifest, can't make BHO near a residence, etc...  So they did change and limit what a CG/PT can do.

can't make BHO  at all right now.. soon you will be able to also we can use oil and candy before this you could be arrested for that, They expanded our law  they did not restrict it   this bill on this tread has nothing to do with pt or caregivers, this is for rec use, 

Edited September 19, 2016 by cristinew

[bobandtorey]

 They expanded our law  they did not restrict it ? 

 

​Sorry i disagree because as we read the Bill's word for word as we all did with Law 1 of 2008 did anyone think that they wouldn't be aloud to say medical marihuana in a court room ?

[pergamum362]

They laid the basis to do away with our current system. Plain and simple. I would say that is working towards restricting it. It may bring access to other forms, and access to more people, but it WILL leave out ppl on things like ssid and such. I cant see any facility operating under 4209 having compassion when there are massive profits to be made.

[phaquetoo]

Unfortunately they do add more crimes, like transporting without a manifest, can't make BHO near a residence, etc...  So they did change and limit what a CG/PT can do.

we have never been allowed to make bho, as far as trans port, nothing has changed other than this locked box thing, a c.g can travel with meds for a pt in a locked box,  No one has ever been allowed to sell to despense's that are not legal!

 

As of now nothing is changed for pt and c.g growers!

 

Peace