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#21 william7

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 05:48 PM

Yup. The whole thing was total BS with a little hater on top. Hearing you loud and clear. And not for the first time. 

 

But on second thought I think I did hear it right. Otherwise I wouldn't have went home and got my voters registration had I thought there was no need to. He wasn't reading from a rules form to me and he didn't show me a rules form. And he didn't stop from going home to get that information.

 

And he did tell me people were coming in to high for the 2016 petition and were signing it wrong in his opinion. Got it?


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#22 Malamute

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:17 PM

Is this what the NORML meeting is all about? Did you get a leaflet in Iron Mountain like I got?

 

I am not a member of NORML.  But I assume yes.  It is very important to do training sessions. It really doesn't take long.


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#23 Malamute

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:23 PM

But on second thought I think I did hear it right. Otherwise I wouldn't have went home and got my voters registration had I thought there was no need to. He wasn't reading from a rules form to me and he didn't show me a rules form. And he didn't stop from going home to get that information.

 

And he did tell me people were coming in to high for the 2016 petition and were signing it wrong in his opinion. Got it?

 

It isn't a bad thing to say sign as you did for your voter registration(which is commonly the same as DL) because the voter registration system is what they check signatures against.

 

Not bad advice, but not 100% correct.

 

in 2016 they barely got half the signatures they needed in either 6 month time frame. The 'bad' signature ratio was actually pretty low compared to other ballot initiatives that have occurred.  So "stoners' are better at it than non users I guess?



#24 Restorium2

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:30 PM

But on second thought I think I did hear it right. Otherwise I wouldn't have went home and got my voters registration had I thought there was no need to. He wasn't reading from a rules form to me and he didn't show me a rules form. And he didn't stop from going home to get that information.

 

And he did tell me people were coming in to high for the 2016 petition and were signing it wrong in his opinion. Got it?

Then he's a hater that doesn't understand the people he sells to and you are his parrot. I got it. 



#25 blackhorse

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:33 PM

I still question if the state ever started checking the signatures. Anyone know?



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:35 PM

They do and did a sample.  They have a procedure. :-)

 

p.s.  They were able to disallow half the signatures basically before having to proceed further into verification as well.  It was dead before it started.



#27 shishka

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:43 PM

I think the petitioners were too high as they didn't even turn in my signature on time.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:15 PM

Why does it seem as if some people here are saying stuff about "being to high" to do normal tasks like write your name. If you can't spell out your name while medicated maybe this isn't the med for you.
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#29 william7

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 03:29 AM

Why does it seem as if some people here are saying stuff about "being to high" to do normal tasks like write your name. If you can't spell out your name while medicated maybe this isn't the med for you.

 

In my day getting high or stoned meant not just smoking weed alone, but drinking, smoking weed and using hallucinogens such as LSD, PCP, peyote, mushrooms, etc, together. We might smoke weed and drink all night then drop some acid. Or drop some speed and then smoke weed and drink like a fish all night. That was the 1960s and 70s before people starting using cannabis as medicine only. Today, I think its best to use cannabis as medicine only. Of course that's just an old man's opinion.   


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#30 william7

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 03:31 AM

Does anybody know where to go sign the petition in the Bad Axe area? I have friends in that area who would like to sign it.



#31 Restorium2

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 06:57 AM

In my day getting high or stoned meant not just smoking weed alone, but drinking, smoking weed and using hallucinogens such as LSD, PCP, peyote, mushrooms, etc, together. We might smoke weed and drink all night then drop some acid. Or drop some speed and then smoke weed and drink like a fish all night. That was the 1960s and 70s before people starting using cannabis as medicine only. Today, I think its best to use cannabis as medicine only. Of course that's just an old man's opinion.   

Sorry for your loss of your ability to think because of your drug abuse. Those of us who just used marijuana, and didn't use all those other hard drugs, are not effected like you have been. We are totally functional and very mentally sharp still in our older age. I carefully experimented with some of those harder drugs but not like what you are describing. 

Marijuana is the safest drug you will ever encounter. Safer than drinking by far and alcohol is legal. There is no good reason that marijuana should be limited to just medical use. 

 

Now here's some advice just for you personally;

 

No one needs an old man with a negatively skewed opinion of marijuana doddering around the petitions. Find something else to do because you are not helping. 



#32 william7

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:49 AM

Sorry for your loss of your ability to think because of your drug abuse. Those of us who just used marijuana, and didn't use all those other hard drugs, are not effected like you have been. We are totally functional and very mentally sharp still in our older age. I carefully experimented with some of those harder drugs but not like what you are describing. 

Marijuana is the safest drug you will ever encounter. Safer than drinking by far and alcohol is legal. There is no good reason that marijuana should be limited to just medical use. 

 

Now here's some advice just for you personally;

 

No one needs an old man with a negatively skewed opinion of marijuana doddering around the petitions. Find something else to do because you are not helping. 

 

And I would add we don't need someone who picks fights, drags threads off topic, and violates the simplest rules of logic and rational thinking. The goal here is to stimulate the free flow of information and ideas. You don't do this with your off brand style of posting. You inhibit instead.


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#33 Restorium2

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 11:04 AM

And I would add we don't need someone who picks fights, drags threads off topic, and violates the simplest rules of logic and rational thinking. The goal here is to stimulate the free flow of information and ideas. You don't do this with your off brand style of posting. You inhibit instead.

No, you are totally off base as I stated clearly. You have shown poor motivation when it comes to medical and recreational cannabis. You are right about one thing, I'm here to inhibit these falsehoods you post. If it were just setting the record straight for some misguided individual then I can see your point but you are a little more than 'bull headed' with your negativity, to the point of being a problem. You quack like the opposition so I call it like it is. 



#34 Restorium2

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 11:15 AM

In my day getting high or stoned meant not just smoking weed alone, but drinking, smoking weed and using hallucinogens such as LSD, PCP, peyote, mushrooms, etc, together. We might smoke weed and drink all night then drop some acid. Or drop some speed and then smoke weed and drink like a fish all night. That was the 1960s and 70s before people starting using cannabis as medicine only. Today, I think its best to use cannabis as medicine only. Of course that's just an old man's opinion.   

Riddle me this; Why does someone who says he thinks that cannabis should only be used medically even try to pretend to advocate for recreational use? And then take jabs at recreational users and say they can't sign their name when they are high? 

Everyone can see right through this propaganda. You spewed out the whole 'cannabis as a gateway drug' like a hater TV commercial. 

Thanks for the examples of cannabis ignorance to shoot down. At least you are valuable as a bad example. 


Edited by Restorium2, 12 June 2017 - 01:16 PM.


#35 william7

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 01:18 PM

Riddle me this; Why does someone who says he thinks that cannabis should only be used medically even try to pretend to advocate for recreational use? And then take jabs at recreational users and say they can't sign their name when they are high? 

Everyone can see right through this propaganda. You spewed out the whole 'cannabis as a gateway drug' like a hater TV commercial. 

Thanks for the examples of cannabis ignorance to shoot down. At least you as valuable as a bad example. 

 

I don't advocate for recreational use. I advocate for legalization. I strongly suspect the "recreational use" term was started by the corporate media as propaganda to slow down legalization. Recreational use creates the image of people getting recklessly high for purely, self-centered, pleasure. Because of this image, those people who do not intoxicate themselves on anything legal or illegal are going to oppose it and vote against it. Now the term "legalization" says something else in my mind. This means ending criminal penalties and prison sentences that cost tax paying citizens, but make money for law enforcement, corrections, lawyers, the courts and politicians. Legalization also means regulation and taking marijuana out of the hands of criminals, gangs and mafias who are behind serious violence and the corruption of the foregoing government officials in our society.

 

As far as the gateway drug idea goes, I can see you don't even understand what it really means by your post. I was a product of the late 1960s and early 1970s. I and my friends all tried alcohol and cigarettes way before we used cannabis and hallucinogens. The cannabis and hallucinogens came about as a part of the counter-culture movement of the youth against the Vietnam war and the government during that era. That was the gateway. You can actually say Nixon and his policies were the gateway to those drugs back then. Gateway to me is a prescription to Vicodin and Oxycontin leading to heroin addiction. You can't argue against that. Got it?


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#36 Restorium2

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 01:42 PM

You sound more like a product of the 40's or 50's. 

 

The point still remains that smoking marijuana doesn't make people mess up their signature on a petition.

 

That was the only reason I said anything. I found that offensive. 

 

Remember that just because something is legal doesn't make it safe, and something illegal is not necessarily reckless or unsafe. Especially when it comes to cannabis. 



#37 william7

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 04:38 PM

You sound more like a product of the 40's or 50's. 

 

The point still remains that smoking marijuana doesn't make people mess up their signature on a petition.

 

That was the only reason I said anything. I found that offensive. 

 

Remember that just because something is legal doesn't make it safe, and something illegal is not necessarily reckless or unsafe. Especially when it comes to cannabis. 

 

I sound this way to you because of your limited knowledge and ability to think logically and rationally.

 

The point is the man at the shop didn't say they were high on just marijuana. He only said they were "too high" and made mistakes in his opinion. And his opinion was based on his observations and the observations of the other employees who worked there.

 

If you find what I reported as offensive, I believe you should consider a hiatus in posting and seek counseling on this. Seriously!

 

Because cannabis is illegal it is dangerous. I can point you to a number of robberies of marijuana dealers that could've went bad and some that did. For example, Man charged in Green Bay murder, drug robbery, at http://www.greenbayp...-uwgb/30188085/. And this was over 2 oz. When cannabis becomes legal you will see less problems of this nature I'm sure.

 

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#38 Restorium2

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 05:02 PM

I guess they were really strick on the 2016 petition and invalidated many signatures for missing things like their middle name. The guy told me your name had to appear identical to the way it was on the voter registration. Even back in the 1970s on the mediocre weed we had, we might have forgot to add our middle name or middle initial. When the guy told me this I went home and got my letter giving notice I was registered to vote to make sure. This guy who told this was young - probably in his late 20s - and a medical marijuana user himself. 

You can't back out on it now. You inferred it was the weed that did it. Come clean. 



#39 william7

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 05:19 PM

You can't back out on it now. You inferred it was the weed that did it. Come clean. 

 

You still can't think logically here. It's what he said, not what I inferred. True, I do still believe people could mess up on a mediocre weed high on things like a middle initial or a middle name if the stringent standards I thought were being applied were actually being applied. Fortunately, those standards are not being applied as blackhorse pointed out in his post.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:58 AM

You still can't think logically here. It's what he said, not what I inferred. True, I do still believe people could mess up on a mediocre weed high on things like a middle initial or a middle name if the stringent standards I thought were being applied were actually being applied. Fortunately, those standards are not being applied as blackhorse pointed out in his post.

Blackhorse proved your he said 'guy' was a liar. The guy you keep parroting. To me, when you parrot a liar you are also a liar. I think you made the whole thing up and there was no he said. You just wanted to bust on people who get high. Just like your whole theme has been here since you started posting. It's not just this time. It's been often. Just wanted you to know I noticed. And it's getting old. 






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