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heres another link to ponder over that fits here if you think it should have its own topic then feel free to repost or move... http://investmentwatchblog.com/big-pharma-prescriptions-including-painkillers-antidepressants-plummeting-as-seniors-turn-to-medical-cannabis/

hello all personally i do not care what other states are doing as it is not ours to care about... if anything look over what there doing and use there short comings we know about to avoid ours that are happening here... i as a voter here in this state will not vote for anything that takes away the patients right to grow there own... i have always felt you can grow the best for you and your needs no one else know that besides you... anything or any wording to take away the mmma as it was voted on is a very bad idea... this is one more thing that shows there scared of this as they wish it to be gone... if it scares them that bad there must be some good in it so lets not let it go... its i feel worth the fight... i will fight... i will vote... now see how you can stop me... those who keep trying to kill our law are the ones we need to discredit and show other who they are... bring them to the light and watch them burn... sorry my rant... abbe

hey mgg nice to see your still around... been wondering how you have been doing lately... if ya get a chance lets get together and see whats been happening... abbe

hey jipo yes were still hang in... glad to see your back again... we will have to get together soon bro... abbe

hello sapphireroze hope things are well... there are a few cg around battle creek im surprised no one has responded to this... what are you looking for as far as your cg... do you have specific needs and wants... as this is your first post here ill be the first to say welcome to the site... to better help you there is a chat room on here to use and its ip real time chat... this helps you get better known to others... lets talk some and see if i can help or work with you some... abbe

hey all well im sorry to see no one wants to test there meds this is sad... if you dont understand how to extract or process the plant right then your going to harm your self and others you give those meds to... any place that sells this would have a liability on this and those who dont test to know it is safe is and should be sued to the fullest extent of the law... not one lab can do all the sampling of what the dispensary will need or want but will have to be part of the lic agreement... it is going to take multiply labs to run all the samples and keep checks on those money shops so we have safe meds... im sorry if you dont agree but ive seen many plants sold out here with pm and mites thru out the raw plant material... this will cause problems and issue with a lot of our patients... kids along with aids patients are and can be harmed using these untested plants and may cause them to get sicker... sad that you or the most of you here dont like that testing is and should be a part of dispersing this med... i guess that just shows how much we care about others were trying to help... i dont see any other way to go on this and get back the rights to get back p 2 p and c 2 p or c or p to dispensary so the masses can get there meds... the state will want and should make testing of plant material thats sold in place like this mandatory... if you couldnt grow your own and know how to make rso bho or just plan old tinctures and tired then sold to a dispensary and it is bad and makes someone sicker is why testing is important... for those who think its about money and those speaking in those meetings you maybe wrong... until you get to know those who are at least speaking hold you tongue... or get off your a s s and get into those meetings and speak or make a meeting with your rep to speak for you... i personally want testing as i know i would not want to be sued for harming anyone out here but from the sounds of this theres some here who would not care if they did as it is about them making money... sad sad sad... abbe

hi darren84 theres a few around ya... so just get out here and talk to others... hit the grow shop get known and meet folks you will be surprised... abbe

hey darren84 also forgot to say theres a lot of chat rooms out here that do have folks in them so may want to visit those when you see others in them... abbe

hi darren84 there are folks near but with the latest crap happening most are not taking chances unless your willing to sign them as a cg... id look thru the site and see what events are going on around the state take some time to go to them meet others there... build up to where you are known by some folks... visit cc clubs and see how they do with there groups... i know time is an issue with work family it eats at it all... then add hurting to the mix the ride to them but in the over all you get to know others in the same boat... things happen as you get known and those who often sit on the side and watch most will show there kindness... then those will make things happen but not if you dont get out and meet with others... as of right now to me your one person who i dont know asking for meds that can be given sold and harm me my family for thinking i was helping... sorry but thats the real in this... abbe

hey king try lansings http://micannalytics.com/ ive had some tested there... abbe

hello nl ive been using a lot of different pv devices over the last 2 to 3 years some are not made well but do work the issue is when they break... ive got my org kit ego style 3 years old still works good... ive moved on to other devices and i also rebuild my heads or attys as there called... have one ive built that can do dry plant material rso oil bho on and when it breaks just rebuild it... i do use this to replace smoking cig this the main use... so i make my own flavors this is the key to using it over cigs... ive been making all kinds of taste or flavours have over 300 + recipes to use... i do love mine at half the cost to most devices out here... there is a lot to find and takes time not many will keep with it... they do work but like all electric device miss use it it will break... good luck finding what works for you ive found what works for me... abbe

hello pic i liked this strain i had it for 1 years grew very well but i used it for glaucoma... http://www.thseeds.com/pages/atrain.html is what my mom was... ive only seen this once in michigan in 4 years... if you do get one please let me know as i would like to buy a clone or 2 of it... letterhead954 id look into vaping as ive had good results with that and sleep... the biggie with vaping is when i stop doing things and im sleeping... like anything finding the strains that help you are hard but there are many to try... i tell folks to find 2 to 4 that really works best for you and grow them... good luck. abbe

hi sf first everyone has there way to do what your asking about in hydro... i only do hydro i will never allow any dirt in my rooms as its dirt and will cause your hydro to kill its self faster... as far as flood and drain aka ebb flow its great... remember that hydron can float so think about the water level and your pots you wish to use... id figure to use a net pot as you say 3in type then keep plant in that as your thinking... but look at the level you flood too and keep the pot 1/2 inch min above that level so the hydron wont float out of the pot... as far as filling the flood tray up with hydron you can but you can also run into issue with root tearing when you want to move them... if you wish to do it like that then use smaller tray and leave your plants in them and move whole tray to flower... if not you will need a holder item like say a piece of pvc pipe to hold the netpot or a planter pot to hold the netpot in... remember the floating issue with your setup... you can use the lids of the buckets and hold the plant in them then flood in the tray then move the lid to the bucket for flower... think on this it may help ya also... use plugs for the clones gives it a base to hold a little better... use a plastic grow pot to hold plant and hydron... setup up a dripper setup... drip into those and when the month is done remove the plant then with that hydron move to the bucket lids and add more hydron... setup the bigboy... now on that do at least 3 runs on the buckets to make sure your timers work and you get it down do this before you set a plant in that system... if you wait you may have issue with how it drains and floods into the buckets... if you didnt buy that setup then you may want to make trays and do those as less plant move more stable on the plant and less chance of pulling roots... theres a lot of chat rooms out here that some growers live in and most of the time instant help can be had... to get to them you need other software and to know where to find them... i feel when you find your system and figure it out you will like hydro as its not to bad to work in... keep extra pump or 2 along with air stones to us in res... get a good ph pen and test it until you know its stable and use it every time you mix nutes... if you do run into any issues you can always post here as theres some fine hydro grows who do visit here and most of us will offer help in what we can and know so info you give will be important to help in figuring out whats up... good luck and ask away as thats how you will find your happy place in hydro... abbe

hi everyone well to be a mod is a big deal first you better like to be called many things and not let it bother you... as it will happen... for the reason most people dont like you up holding someones rules who owns the site... its not your site but theres and you have to follow them as your told of them its there site there rules... most people dont like it when you do this as they feel its there right to do and act as they see fit... so as a mod your treated like crap and called many bad things that you dont deserve but will be called them anyway... so know this going in... you have to be fair and you have to keep your wits about you... watch what and how you speak and say things as what you do say will never be right... every time you have to enforce a rule someone who wishes to not follow... your the bad person period... as a fair mod you have to be understanding even if you dont agree with both sides... you have to understand most say things with out thinking before... this will be trying on you but always remember there people and can make mistakes but now how many are you willing to let them make,,, this is where other mods and admits should speak and come to a reasonable idea of how and what to do then... this way they all agree so no one will not understand why it was done... the mod should know and have the rights to reverse there own screw ups when they find out they were wrong... above all no other mod or admit should reverse what another mod has done with out speaking with them first... so its a tough thing to do and take on and yes you can be a clown and also lead the clowns only if they wish to follow... so being a mod is hard but if your fair it may work out for all and make there time here better... theres so much more to it then just this... it also can be a proud position to have when done right as you will help more then you know... just remember its there site and you are act for them and the rules they have in place never make it personal... good luck in it if you take it... abbe

hey all personally for me if someone is hurting and in need and i know them ill take the risk... there in need and i believe help is the key if i go to jail helping someone then its meant to be and i will go knowing i at least helped one person... im sorry but i think no court or jury if they know the story will put me away for doing what is right and when its free i would hope they would understand i was not doing it to gain only to help... i do hope one day that it is known health and helping is more important then money if not... i guess then it shows we are and think like those in office and judges... so we out here would truly be for ourselves and screw everyone that helps then who will... we all lose and i would hope we never have to see this... as the way things are going this we will see as its happening now in some areas... no money no help... abbe